Jay McKenna

This is a scouts lad.

That's one thing about Liverpool.

They were in school four years ago, you know what I mean, out on the other side of the world, playing for London Grands.

I always had this with Chiesi, you know.

I don't know what it is in my head, Chiesi's just like this, like,

40-year-old Italian fella.

40-year-old Italian fella.

Maybe they are though, Jake, because we started at the top of the show talking about the character of Munoz and we talked about the character of Diamante and what he put in that letter and maybe Liverpool are looking for the right type of characters who will eventually grow into leaders but there is a real concern about the leaders that have left over the past couple of years and you look at that squad now, we can recruit leaders and we can recruit that for the future but

Canarte was one who I thought when they left, he'd step into that leadership group.

He's a big person in the dressing room.

Now, we're not stacked with them, Alisson Becker, and that's another reason, no matter what fee comes in, I wouldn't have sold Alisson for the same reason.

Whether Andy Robertson got the game time or not, whether he was happy with it or not, I'd have convinced him to do another year.

As I like to, yeah.

And to integrate this new manager in and the standards in.

So the concern for me is leadership in that group.

And I think it's going to be really, really important that Liverpool address it.

And whether you see Curtis Jones as a captain or not, I don't care.

He's definitely a big fella in that district.

You can say in there, there's a big PSI thing about Jones, he's an on-ground player and if you move him on for a fee, it satisfies

i don't quite understand the language in liverpool being irritated at 25 million and given the state given the given the midfield market we just said there probably 35 is probably realistic so to be irritated when you're 10 million off