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What's your general take of Zuck going MAGA? How do you interpret his change of heart?
What's your general take of Zuck going MAGA? How do you interpret his change of heart?
It's but one signal. It's one system for trying to get to the truth. It's not the only one. Fact-checking is another one. And having no system is another one. Chamath, you're obviously an alumni. You worked side-by-side with Zuckerberg in the pivotal years of building the Facebook platform. What's your take on what Cyan said? And what do you attribute... Zuckerberg's massive 180 here.
It's but one signal. It's one system for trying to get to the truth. It's not the only one. Fact-checking is another one. And having no system is another one. Chamath, you're obviously an alumni. You worked side-by-side with Zuckerberg in the pivotal years of building the Facebook platform. What's your take on what Cyan said? And what do you attribute... Zuckerberg's massive 180 here.
So he complied. Freeberg, your thoughts on Zuckerberg? making this decision, if Kamala Harris had won, would he have released this statement or added Dana White to the board of Facebook? Probably not. Okay. There you have it, folks. Pretty straightforward here. Kamala wins. He would not have done this. He is jumping in front of a marching band and he is the band leader now.
So he complied. Freeberg, your thoughts on Zuckerberg? making this decision, if Kamala Harris had won, would he have released this statement or added Dana White to the board of Facebook? Probably not. Okay. There you have it, folks. Pretty straightforward here. Kamala wins. He would not have done this. He is jumping in front of a marching band and he is the band leader now.
He's got his baton and he's a front runner. And if you open the dictionary and you look it up.
He's got his baton and he's a front runner. And if you open the dictionary and you look it up.
Oh, yeah, there's a tremendous amount wrong with it. It's called moral integrity, having an ethical compass, having chutzpah, having an own sense of what's right and wrong in the world, which he does not have, in my estimation, based on his behavior here.
Oh, yeah, there's a tremendous amount wrong with it. It's called moral integrity, having an ethical compass, having chutzpah, having an own sense of what's right and wrong in the world, which he does not have, in my estimation, based on his behavior here.
Let me be clear. I'm happy you're challenging me on it. I base people on their actions. His action was to be the greatest censor in the history of humanity. There's no human being who has censored more humans than him. That was his decision when it was a popular decision, whether it was COVID or popular.
Let me be clear. I'm happy you're challenging me on it. I base people on their actions. His action was to be the greatest censor in the history of humanity. There's no human being who has censored more humans than him. That was his decision when it was a popular decision, whether it was COVID or popular.
I disagree. His business would have been just as vibrant if he had a spine and he just said, this is what I believe. And I think he's over-optimizing based on what he thinks everybody else around him wants. And I don't know. I've never worked with him. I don't know him personally. You're right on that front. But he banned Trump for two years, the president of the United States.
I disagree. His business would have been just as vibrant if he had a spine and he just said, this is what I believe. And I think he's over-optimizing based on what he thinks everybody else around him wants. And I don't know. I've never worked with him. I don't know him personally. You're right on that front. But he banned Trump for two years, the president of the United States.
I said at the time, I don't know that you can give a permanent ban to the president of the United States. When he had the opportunity to reevaluate that decision, you know what he did? He punted. He created a third-party organization to make the decision for him and deflected. Zuck created the oversight board.
I said at the time, I don't know that you can give a permanent ban to the president of the United States. When he had the opportunity to reevaluate that decision, you know what he did? He punted. He created a third-party organization to make the decision for him and deflected. Zuck created the oversight board.
He's so spineless, he decided, I'll create and give $150 million to this board to make these hard decisions for me. Instead of me making the decision, he has God voting shares of that company, Chamath. He controls it with an iron fist. And not only does he control it with an iron fist, he has put protective precisions in that so that his children could...
He's so spineless, he decided, I'll create and give $150 million to this board to make these hard decisions for me. Instead of me making the decision, he has God voting shares of that company, Chamath. He controls it with an iron fist. And not only does he control it with an iron fist, he has put protective precisions in that so that his children could...
take that $3.3 billion platform and own it forever. And he punted to them and said, I don't want to make these decisions. What I saw when he did that was, I don't want to be blamed for these decisions. And that is a lack of courage and morality in my estimation. And then the second he is threatened by Trump, he makes the opposite decision.
take that $3.3 billion platform and own it forever. And he punted to them and said, I don't want to make these decisions. What I saw when he did that was, I don't want to be blamed for these decisions. And that is a lack of courage and morality in my estimation. And then the second he is threatened by Trump, he makes the opposite decision.