Jay Pukepuke

Yeah, at least I can say, well, yeah, you can do that, but this is what will happen.

And they're like, no, I'll be all right.

You went to prison and you're all right.

I said, yeah, but you're not me.

You know, you've got to do your own yards.

Probably 19.

19.

Yeah.

I actually...

I actually was playing really good league and then I just gave it up and started fighting.

Um,

I don't even know why.

I know why.

It was probably because I was just with that crowd who were fighting.

So I started training as a fighter, which took me away from league, which is a shame, which kind of led me down other paths.

Yeah, I remember that night.

I remember just saying out loud, oh, we should rob.

We should rob a...

uh, petrol station, whatever, and then, uh, guys, guys who I was with, could have been two, could have been five guys, can't remember, um, they were, they kind of like, like, ha ha ha, that'll be cool, ha ha ha, but then saying it out loud actually made it real, and then, um,

Yeah, I actually planned it.