Jay Pukepuke

And I remember, I remember in, in Peremurumua, it was, uh, two toast, maybe three and two weepiks.

And that would sustain you to, unless you had snacks, which you could purchase, which, you know, not everyone did.

Um, um,

Working in the kitchen obviously has its perks.

Yeah, I tell you what, you know, I've been to a lot of educational institutions since.

The most I ever learned was in prison.

The most I use in my life today is from prison.

In terms of good stuff?

Yeah, not like people I met and tips and tricks of how to...

Rob Banks or anything.

It's more about... Life skills and things.

Life skills, bigger picture, looking at the bigger picture.

I used to be quite... I'd get quite aggravated and agitated quite easily.

Now I'm very...

Now it's hard.

Or I avoid it.

So if I start getting – if I feel like there's a situation where I'm getting worked up, I'll just totally disappear.

That's my strategy because, you know, for me it was happy, happy, friendly, big kid or smash your head in.

So I had to just disappear over here.

It's the old saying.