Jay Pukepuke

What can we take from what we've learned and add value and actually help?

We don't want to put plasters on because they come off in a few days.

We want to actually real change, you know, so...

That's what brochures change is.

It's not just a start date and a finish date contract.

You're building a relationship for a lifetime.

Anyone.

At the moment, we're kind of contracted with the government to work with rangatahi that are so-called NEETs, which is not employed and enrolled in training.

But we take anyone from...

This particular programme we call Timutanga Hau, Fresh Start.

We work with anyone from turning 15 that year up to 24.

Also, other than that, we work with anyone one-on-one who...

Man, anyone.

When I say anyone, it could be in a single-parent home, could be in a gang family, could be lacking confidence, school's not working for them.

You know, there's no exact type.

It's a range of different things where they might come into contact with us.

Right.

Yeah, part of it we call that reality therapy.

You know, the therapy is your reality.

So it's all self-referred.