Jay Pukepuke

It's been a long time.

Oh man, yeah, I'm just, obviously it's changed my life and I hope it hasn't had any major effects on their life.

Yeah, come for a beer.

Just, yeah, obviously.

Yeah, very ashamed, especially like...

direct victims from that robbery end as well as my family and all that so hopefully now it's kind of like all

healing itself.

Is that going to be a lifelong thing?

Yep, never ends.

It draws me now more than ever, draws me back to...

You know, that's why part of it is showing the kids my grandmother's house, my dad's house, all the houses I lived while I was here, the area I grew up in, the prisons.

And then on Saturday, tomorrow we're going.

up to where we're from, the marae, where my grandmother's from, and then next week we're going into the Uruwera, where my grandmother's from.

So all of that is a home base.

And once you know where you are, you know how to get anywhere from there.

If you don't know where you are, how do you get to New Zealand?

Plane, boat, walk, depends where you are.

So that's my kind of...

That's my thinking.

Because if I ask my kids, where are you from?