Jay Pukepuke

but you know desperate times I got I got crook a few times obviously they're still cooking um but the moment was great yeah I suppose you just want that just that moment of escapism eh yeah I remember my 21st you know how people normally get a key I was like well in this case I really wish I had the door yeah yeah what about future goals yeah where do you set yourself at yeah 50 whatever

Living quietly in the bush, self-sustainable, teaching my kids all the life skills and quite simple actually, simple life in the bush, hunting sustainably and learning about the taiao and

Retracting back to Matariki and those ways, learning, living quite happily.

It's got quite a strong pull on me these days, so it's really cool.

Tried that out, didn't really work out.

Um...

That's tough because it's kind of like talking about myself, but they'd probably say funny.

My wife would say either determined or hardworking.

And the kids would say farting.

But...

Yeah, probably determines, funny and caring or strong.

I do.

It describes a very different Jay to, you know, the one I left in Auckland.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you proud of yourself?

I am.

I'm proud of what I've been able to do, the places I've been, and the way I've recovered, I guess, from what could have been very different, and proud of my family, and sort of excited to see what they can achieve.

Yeah, there's a little bit of embarrassment there.

It's gone fast.