Jay Watson
Appearances
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
My name is Jay Watson. I'm a journalist. For 25 years, I was in local broadcast news, and now I do a syndicated PBS show on the brain and mind called Your Fantastic Mind. which explores all areas of brain-mind science.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
John Paul, when he spelled, oftentimes he sounded like a professor, not a 17-year-old boy.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
Libby would call me every week to tell me the latest thing John Paul said. I remember when she called and told me that John Paul had seen heaven. And then Libby's stepfather died, Sam, who was just a treasure. And he came to John Paul and began speaking through John Paul to her. And I remember that phone call. I remember when she called and told me that the angels began showing up.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
And he told her they were 10 feet tall and they were very loud. And sometimes they would be talking at the same time and he would run from the kitchen to his bedroom and slam the door shut.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
I'd say like a lot of people, I struggle with faith. How does this all make sense? What is this all about? And then you see in this population that is so judged for their exterior that they are connected. to this thing that's a mystery to the rest of us. And for them, it's just real.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
I called Becky to set her up to interview her for our TV show, Your Fantastic Mind. And we get on the phone and she has the loveliest voice.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
She had shrapnel in her brain left over from the Iraq war. She had surgery in 2017 to remove that shrapnel.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
And she said, anyway, since I've died, the door to heaven has stayed open. And that was like the first thing she said to me. And I was like, wow, that's a heck of a lead off.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
And she told me how difficult it was in the months afterwards. And I don't know if difficult is the right word, but knowing the difference between heaven visitors and the rest of us. And she told me a story, which is the story that has stuck the most with me, that she was at her Publix in line at the deli. And there was a fellow in front of her in a black leather jacket.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
And as soon as she saw him, she felt this pain and fear. She closed her eyes and said, God, if this person isn't real, please make him go away. And she opened her eyes and he was still there. And he turned around and he said to her, will you go get a can of seven up and take it up to that guy at the deli and say, make seven up yours. So she goes and gets a seven up. It's her turn for her order.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
And she says to the guy at the counter, And she's very funny and very charming. She's like, hi, I had brain surgery and I have a hole in my brain. So I just, I've been with this gentleman in a black leather jacket and an Afro. And he just asked me to come bring this to you and say, make seven of yours. And the guy fainted.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
And she said, when he fainted, she saw like a Rolodex in her brain photos of That the two of them were good friends growing up, that they worked at a mechanic together and that the guy in the black leather jacket had died in a shooting.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
And so when this guy came to, he wanted to talk to her and she went and spoke to him and he wound up telling her that he had planned to leave work that day and end his life.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
So that's my favorite story.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
On Sunday night, I get the text from Lily that John Paul has died. I went there first thing the next morning. We were there all day and night. I came home late and I had a missed call from Becky. So I texted her that my friend's child had died and I was sorry I missed her.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
Because I've been seeing him and I'm like, what? And I called her and said, what's going on? And she said, when I was on the phone with you Tuesday, I saw him. And Becky's uncle was like some renowned police investigator up north. And she said, for whatever reason, because she wasn't very close with him in life, he's her person in heaven and he will bring her people.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
And she said, when he has his pocket watch out and it's open, I know that within 24 hours, that person will be in heaven. And he had John Paul with him. And his pocket watch was out, but it wasn't open. And she didn't know that I knew him.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
He told her everything about his last day on earth. Everyone in that house was where they were supposed to be in order for it to happen. Libby laid down to take a nap and Becky said that John Paul said goodbye to her and he knew where he was going. And John Paul also said goodbye to his friends on the hill.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
And Becky described in detail for me how he walked out of the house and towards his hot tub. And she said, when he got in the tub, that there was no fear, there was no pain. She also described when Libby and Peter came out, to try to get him out of the tub. Libby's great grandfather, who worked with cattle, who had died in 1941, was trying to give them the strength to get him out.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
It was a whole new dimension to what I'd already been experiencing through the non-speakers, through a so-called regular person. She said, he looks incredible and he is just busy. He is, he's having the most wonderful time. Becky said that John Paul, you know, he was enormous here on earth, six foot eight, that in heaven, he's 10 feet tall. She said that
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
John Paul is in charge of children in heaven who did not have a voice here on earth. And she told me that they were all clamoring for his high fives. She didn't know him. John Paul was famous, famous for his high fives. She also told me that he was building his house and she was describing these brown wooden walls and a couch and a rocking chair with a tie back.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
On a cushion, she was describing the cabin I've been to as the home that he was building in heaven.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
It was the loudest funeral I've ever been at in my life. It was so awesome. Houston did a eulogy for John Paul that Katie read and Houston said a couple of the sentences.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
A lot of the non-speakers who were spread throughout the sanctuary and the church were all spelling the same thing to their parents at the same time that said, You can't believe how many angels are here right now.
The Telepathy Tapes
Ep. 9: Telepathy Across Dimensions, Death, and Beyond
And Noah doesn't love to be touched. went up and hugged her three different times. She told me how he buried his face and her hair, smelling it. And they were like, wow, what's going on with Noah? And after he got home, he spelled for his mom that John Paul asked if he could inhabit his body so he could hug his mom and smell her hair.