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J.D. Tomlinson

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381 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

Probable cause is very easy. And so, you know, I was so lucky when I got charged. I joked around with Jim Burge, my my co-defendant and mentor for many years who taught me a lot was thank God I've got the smartest lawyer as a co-defendant ever. You know, thank God, you know, because I mean, you know, I was and I also learned that I'm probably not the best client as a lawyer.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

Probable cause is very easy. And so, you know, I was so lucky when I got charged. I joked around with Jim Burge, my my co-defendant and mentor for many years who taught me a lot was thank God I've got the smartest lawyer as a co-defendant ever. You know, thank God, you know, because I mean, you know, I was and I also learned that I'm probably not the best client as a lawyer.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

I used to bitch about clients like me. And I think I'm that way. I'm sitting at the defense table trying to dictate everything to my lawyer. It's like I wasn't the best client. And shout out to Mike Cameron, who was our lawyer, who really had to deal with me.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

I used to bitch about clients like me. And I think I'm that way. I'm sitting at the defense table trying to dictate everything to my lawyer. It's like I wasn't the best client. And shout out to Mike Cameron, who was our lawyer, who really had to deal with me.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

I used to bitch about clients like me. And I think I'm that way. I'm sitting at the defense table trying to dictate everything to my lawyer. It's like I wasn't the best client. And shout out to Mike Cameron, who was our lawyer, who really had to deal with me.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

But the truth of the matter is when it happens to you, the only thing I disagree, Josh, is even if it didn't happen to me, I knew that it could happen. I would have listened no matter what. I think that I was briefed about this case in 2022, 23. I was invited down to Cincinnati for a... Ohio Innocence Project, but I think I was probably the only prosecutor in there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

But the truth of the matter is when it happens to you, the only thing I disagree, Josh, is even if it didn't happen to me, I knew that it could happen. I would have listened no matter what. I think that I was briefed about this case in 2022, 23. I was invited down to Cincinnati for a... Ohio Innocence Project, but I think I was probably the only prosecutor in there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

But the truth of the matter is when it happens to you, the only thing I disagree, Josh, is even if it didn't happen to me, I knew that it could happen. I would have listened no matter what. I think that I was briefed about this case in 2022, 23. I was invited down to Cincinnati for a... Ohio Innocence Project, but I think I was probably the only prosecutor in there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

But I got to be honest, I never really felt comfortable in the... We would go to Ohio Prosecuting Association meetings, my mentor and I, and we never really fit in. I mean, prosecutions, they're fantastic, but they're almost like the hall monitors in class. You know what I mean? And I always just thought defense attorneys were much more fun to hang out with.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

But I got to be honest, I never really felt comfortable in the... We would go to Ohio Prosecuting Association meetings, my mentor and I, and we never really fit in. I mean, prosecutions, they're fantastic, but they're almost like the hall monitors in class. You know what I mean? And I always just thought defense attorneys were much more fun to hang out with.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

But I got to be honest, I never really felt comfortable in the... We would go to Ohio Prosecuting Association meetings, my mentor and I, and we never really fit in. I mean, prosecutions, they're fantastic, but they're almost like the hall monitors in class. You know what I mean? And I always just thought defense attorneys were much more fun to hang out with.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

But we always kind of... Because I have so much respect for defense attorneys, You know, I remember the presenters would go up and kind of clown on defense attorneys, and I'd look around, and me and Jim were the only ones pissed off. You know, we were pissed off going, hey, what the hell? You know, defense attorneys try to do their thing, man, and thank God.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

But we always kind of... Because I have so much respect for defense attorneys, You know, I remember the presenters would go up and kind of clown on defense attorneys, and I'd look around, and me and Jim were the only ones pissed off. You know, we were pissed off going, hey, what the hell? You know, defense attorneys try to do their thing, man, and thank God.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

But we always kind of... Because I have so much respect for defense attorneys, You know, I remember the presenters would go up and kind of clown on defense attorneys, and I'd look around, and me and Jim were the only ones pissed off. You know, we were pissed off going, hey, what the hell? You know, defense attorneys try to do their thing, man, and thank God.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

That's what it is. And that's the problem right there, Joe, is really we're all looking for the same thing, justice, and you hit it right on the head. It's about winning. And I almost trust – I trust police much more than I almost do prosecutors because it seems like there's an inherent –

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

That's what it is. And that's the problem right there, Joe, is really we're all looking for the same thing, justice, and you hit it right on the head. It's about winning. And I almost trust – I trust police much more than I almost do prosecutors because it seems like there's an inherent –

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

That's what it is. And that's the problem right there, Joe, is really we're all looking for the same thing, justice, and you hit it right on the head. It's about winning. And I almost trust – I trust police much more than I almost do prosecutors because it seems like there's an inherent –

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

desire for them to get it right and it's it's more of the prosecutors that want to win yeah and uh i just had such a great experience with law enforcement and it they changed my mind because i i didn't really like the narrative and i criticized my own party about it the anti you know law enforcement rhetoric is just unwarranted agreed it's a terribly difficult job that gets no reward and your life is in danger every day

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

desire for them to get it right and it's it's more of the prosecutors that want to win yeah and uh i just had such a great experience with law enforcement and it they changed my mind because i i didn't really like the narrative and i criticized my own party about it the anti you know law enforcement rhetoric is just unwarranted agreed it's a terribly difficult job that gets no reward and your life is in danger every day

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2287 - Josh Dubin & J.D. Tomlinson

desire for them to get it right and it's it's more of the prosecutors that want to win yeah and uh i just had such a great experience with law enforcement and it they changed my mind because i i didn't really like the narrative and i criticized my own party about it the anti you know law enforcement rhetoric is just unwarranted agreed it's a terribly difficult job that gets no reward and your life is in danger every day