JD Vance

Yeah, it's a very good bit.

And there is a moral intuition there that obviously like something that looks and feels like a baby is more valuable than something that just looks like a clump of something that has a heartbeat.

Sure.

But I think it's just hard, right?

Because it's not clear to me philosophically where you draw the line here.

It's a very like hard question to figure out.

And I think that's why people debate it and disagree about it so vociferously.

But it's interesting, man.

The thing that I find, again, as a person who leans more in the pro-life side of this debate is, OK, so you will sometimes hear people on the left say, well, late term abortion doesn't happen.

Well, there's an organization called the Guttmacher Institute.

It's a pro-choice organization.

It's a pro-abortion rights organization.

And they found that there are approximately, I think it's 12,000 abortions that happen in the second half of pregnancy.

So this is past 20 weeks.

Maybe it's even past 22 weeks.

About 12,000 abortions past 22 weeks.

They also found that of those, 8,000 of them are purely elective.

There's no medical necessity.

There's no like the baby has some genetic abnormality.

It's just pure elective late term abortion.