JD Vance

Yeah.

And I do think that there's something that is really weird about this whole debate where, you know, thank God, to be clear, this is not true of the gross majority of our pro-choice citizens.

But you do sometimes see people like they'll go on TikTok and they'll celebrate having an abortion.

I've known many, many women.

usually when I was younger, who chose to have abortions because they felt like they didn't have any other options.

And, you know, I don't I don't judge them.

I think that a lot of them just felt like they were completely trapped and they made the decision that was ultimately right for them.

Again, my argument is we need to try to gain those women's trust back because clearly the Republican Party on this issue has lost a lot of trust.

But none of them were like

baking birthday cakes and posting about it afterwards.

They recognize that this is a medical procedure and this is, you know, something that they felt they had to do.

But celebrating something like that is just bizarre to me.

And I'm much more comfortable with the people who say safe, legal, rare than I am with the people who say, let's shadow abortion from the rooftops.

Yeah.

No, look, I mean, again, I understand that.

I understand the pushback against that.

But I think you can go, like with so many other issues, you can go way too far about it.

And it becomes trying to celebrate something that at the very best, if you grant, I think, every argument of the pro-choice side, it is a neutral thing, not something to be celebrated.

I agree.

It's just the extreme weirdos, the TikTok people.