JD Vance

And energy and the whole suite of things, because unless our economy is actually technologically innovative, then the stagnant economy is fundamentally like the worst thing. And I think a lot of actually America's pathologies right now stem from the fact that we feel like we live in a very zero-sum country, because in some ways we do. Right.

And energy and the whole suite of things, because unless our economy is actually technologically innovative, then the stagnant economy is fundamentally like the worst thing. And I think a lot of actually America's pathologies right now stem from the fact that we feel like we live in a very zero-sum country, because in some ways we do. Right.

When the economy is growing four or five, six percent a year, then Democrats can kind of get what they want. Republicans can kind of get what they want. And it all makes sense. If the economy is growing between zero and one percent a year, then I think it makes the whole society and our political system much, much more insane.

When the economy is growing four or five, six percent a year, then Democrats can kind of get what they want. Republicans can kind of get what they want. And it all makes sense. If the economy is growing between zero and one percent a year, then I think it makes the whole society and our political system much, much more insane.

And I think that's kind of a subtext of what's been going on in this country for the last 30 years.

And I think that's kind of a subtext of what's been going on in this country for the last 30 years.

Yeah. So first of all, when Biden was running against Trump, one of the things the media tried to do is to say, well, you know, you have these two guys who are a little bit older than average and both of them clearly aren't fully with it. And I would hear the media talk about Biden like this and then talk about Trump like this.

Yeah. So first of all, when Biden was running against Trump, one of the things the media tried to do is to say, well, you know, you have these two guys who are a little bit older than average and both of them clearly aren't fully with it. And I would hear the media talk about Biden like this and then talk about Trump like this.

And it's like, guys, Donald Trump remembers exactly what I said about him nine and a half years ago to the minute, to the day, to the exact line. Like, trust me, his memory is 100% there, even if it would be more in my interest if it wasn't. And, you know, what changed for me, I mean, two things.

And it's like, guys, Donald Trump remembers exactly what I said about him nine and a half years ago to the minute, to the day, to the exact line. Like, trust me, his memory is 100% there, even if it would be more in my interest if it wasn't. And, you know, what changed for me, I mean, two things.

One, Chamath, you just sort of hit on this, is a lot of the things the press said about Donald Trump and says about Donald Trump are just straight-up fabrications. And so if you think the press is, like, biased, that's one thing.

One, Chamath, you just sort of hit on this, is a lot of the things the press said about Donald Trump and says about Donald Trump are just straight-up fabrications. And so if you think the press is, like, biased, that's one thing.

But if you think the press is fundamentally trying to tell you the truth, even if it's in a biased way, and then you realize that, like, Donald Trump never called white supremacists very fine people after Charlottesville.

But if you think the press is fundamentally trying to tell you the truth, even if it's in a biased way, and then you realize that, like, Donald Trump never called white supremacists very fine people after Charlottesville.

a total fabrication of the american media it's like okay what other things am i hearing about donald trump that are actually not true right the second thing is you know we talked about this a little bit last night but look if you go back to the date of my or the year of my birth which is 1984 there's this chart that's really interesting and it tracks corporate profits the

a total fabrication of the american media it's like okay what other things am i hearing about donald trump that are actually not true right the second thing is you know we talked about this a little bit last night but look if you go back to the date of my or the year of my birth which is 1984 there's this chart that's really interesting and it tracks corporate profits the

the wages of workers and the size of government. And for pretty much my entire life, the wages of workers were stagnant, corporate profits were going up, and the size of government was going up. And there was a four year period where the wages of workers outpaced the size of government corporate profits. It's the four years that Donald Trump was president.

the wages of workers and the size of government. And for pretty much my entire life, the wages of workers were stagnant, corporate profits were going up, and the size of government was going up. And there was a four year period where the wages of workers outpaced the size of government corporate profits. It's the four years that Donald Trump was president.

And I think that we have to like give some credit where it's due, the policies actually work.

And I think that we have to like give some credit where it's due, the policies actually work.