JD Vance

And I think that... I don't know her super well, but my basic read on Lena is that she is so anti-monopoly as sort of a baseline bias, and that becomes anti-merger and acquisition as a baseline bias, that Google buying YouTube is a much, much different thing from a $2 billion market cap healthcare company buying a $500 million market cap healthcare company.

And I think that... I don't know her super well, but my basic read on Lena is that she is so anti-monopoly as sort of a baseline bias, and that becomes anti-merger and acquisition as a baseline bias, that Google buying YouTube is a much, much different thing from a $2 billion market cap healthcare company buying a $500 million market cap healthcare company.

And I think that we have to sort of draw a very big distinction between little tech and big tech. And look, I'm going to keep on making that argument both in public and private to Lena, and hopefully she comes around to our view a little bit, because I do think some of her ideas on big tech are right.

And I think that we have to sort of draw a very big distinction between little tech and big tech. And look, I'm going to keep on making that argument both in public and private to Lena, and hopefully she comes around to our view a little bit, because I do think some of her ideas on big tech are right.

Well, I think the reason why it's so difficult right now, and I mean, look, generally, I agree that, okay, we're going to let some immigrants in. We want them to be high talent, high quality people. You don't want to let a large number of illegal aliens in. Obviously, that's President Trump's view.

Well, I think the reason why it's so difficult right now, and I mean, look, generally, I agree that, okay, we're going to let some immigrants in. We want them to be high talent, high quality people. You don't want to let a large number of illegal aliens in. Obviously, that's President Trump's view.

But I think that the reason why it's so broken down right now is because you have 25 million illegal aliens in this country. And you can't fix what I would call the minor or sort of less important immigration question that until you fix the real problem. And part of that goes back, by the way, to the way in which the system got broken in the first place.

But I think that the reason why it's so broken down right now is because you have 25 million illegal aliens in this country. And you can't fix what I would call the minor or sort of less important immigration question that until you fix the real problem. And part of that goes back, by the way, to the way in which the system got broken in the first place.

So Ronald Reagan, of course, great governor of California, a great president, but Reagan did in 1986 a massive amnesty program where in some ways he was trying to do exactly what you're talking about. Fix the problem of people who are already here, make sure that our immigration system is more pro-skill, but also close down the border.

So Ronald Reagan, of course, great governor of California, a great president, but Reagan did in 1986 a massive amnesty program where in some ways he was trying to do exactly what you're talking about. Fix the problem of people who are already here, make sure that our immigration system is more pro-skill, but also close down the border.

And what happened is we got all the amnesty, but we didn't get the closing down of the borders. And so in order to do anything, I think, meaningful on immigration policy, meaning legal immigration policy, you've got to close down the border and establish some basic order.

And what happened is we got all the amnesty, but we didn't get the closing down of the borders. And so in order to do anything, I think, meaningful on immigration policy, meaning legal immigration policy, you've got to close down the border and establish some basic order.

And to go back to first principles here, I think that people who are generally, I mean, look, this is, I'm sure, a very diverse crowd. And I'm sure there are a lot of immigrants in this crowd, legal immigrants, hopefully. I'm married to the daughter. I'm married to the daughter of legal immigrants to this country. And I, of course, love not just my wife, but the whole extended family.

And to go back to first principles here, I think that people who are generally, I mean, look, this is, I'm sure, a very diverse crowd. And I'm sure there are a lot of immigrants in this crowd, legal immigrants, hopefully. I'm married to the daughter. I'm married to the daughter of legal immigrants to this country. And I, of course, love not just my wife, but the whole extended family.

I do think they've brought a lot to this country. But here's the thing. When you allow 25 million people into this country, it breaks down the entire social compact, right? So think about this. Okay, you're down on your luck. You lost your job. You get unemployment insurance. You're really down on your luck. You need food assistance from the federal government.

I do think they've brought a lot to this country. But here's the thing. When you allow 25 million people into this country, it breaks down the entire social compact, right? So think about this. Okay, you're down on your luck. You lost your job. You get unemployment insurance. You're really down on your luck. You need food assistance from the federal government.

I believe, as a conservative, that part of being in the same American family, whether your family's been here for a generation or 10 generations— is that we support people who are down on the luck. We don't want a cradle to grave welfare state, but we want to support people. We don't want kids who are dying because of starvation, because of no fault of their own.

I believe, as a conservative, that part of being in the same American family, whether your family's been here for a generation or 10 generations— is that we support people who are down on the luck. We don't want a cradle to grave welfare state, but we want to support people. We don't want kids who are dying because of starvation, because of no fault of their own.

We want to promote some basic fairness, and we want to help people out when times get tough. But you can't do that if you extend that generosity to tens of millions of people who can't even be here in the first place. And I think that what Kamala Harris has done at the border, it's not just bad economically. It's not just bad for public safety.

We want to promote some basic fairness, and we want to help people out when times get tough. But you can't do that if you extend that generosity to tens of millions of people who can't even be here in the first place. And I think that what Kamala Harris has done at the border, it's not just bad economically. It's not just bad for public safety.