JD Vance

And it collapsed public support for the Vietnam War.

Where they grew up in America where social trust was just so much higher.

And I think that a lot of them are trying to reimpose that social trust from the top, not recognizing that that high level of social trust came organically from the way that American society worked.

And if you have...

people trying to reimpose it from the top, it actually degrades the very thing that you're trying to create.

Because I've seen, I mean, family members of mine who got really radicalized because they were like, wait a second, should we be masking three-year-olds in our schools?

Like, does that do something to their language development?

And then they would get kicked off of Facebook because a person with 900 Facebook friends who has no public profile dared to like question the prevailing narrative.

And again, they ended up being right about it.

I actually think that what the left is doing is,

is degrading social trust by trying to create it from on high.

And I kind of get the psychological impulse because, you know, like a lot of great things that we do come from high levels of social trust, but you've got to reestablish it organically.

You can't try to force it on people.

I did see that.

What did you think of that?

I mean, I go back and forth.

Like, again, I don't know Jeff super well.

I've always liked him, my interactions with him.

But the problem with the Washington Post is not that their editorial page has been insufficiently conservative.

It's that their entire journalism department is fundamentally engaged in democratic political activism.