JD Vance

It fired, I think, 9,000 people.

And then I was like, wait a second.

Record profits, record market cap.

but also saying they're desperate for workers.

So I have not yet had that conversation with Microsoft.

In my defense, I just found out.

We'll have a conversation.

Yeah, so one, I agree with that, though.

I think it's a slightly different question, right?

You can believe that you want American firms to hire American college graduates, but then also wonder if the college education system we have in this country is broken.

And I certainly think that it is.

I mean, you know, one, I really...

I went to Ohio State for undergrad and then Yale Law School.

When I was at Yale, I guess it was 2010 to 2013, I felt like it was a very left-leaning place, but it was still fundamentally a place where you could debate ideas, where you wouldn't be penalized for stepping outside of the orthodoxy.

When I talked to college kids, when I talked to 21-year-olds at some of these universities,

Some of them feel like they're living in like a North Korean totalitarian style dictatorship where the social and employment costs of saying anything outside of the Overton window is so severe.

That's not a useful social institution.

Like I want colleges to promote free thinking, even dangerous ideas, you know, challenge those ideas.

Maybe some of them are wrong.

Maybe some of them are right.