JD Vance

So I think it is useful to look to the Chinese to benchmark our own progress and to say that if we're regulating ourselves to death and allowing the Chinese to catch up to us, that's not something, frankly, we should blame the Chinese for.

That's something we should blame our own leaders for, for having stupid policies that allow other countries to catch up to America.

So it's a useful benchmark, but I still think fundamentally we have to take the attitude of we want the world to be built, I think, on an American technology stack, not on a Chinese or some other country's technology stack.

And if you're too focused on the relative comparison and not focused enough on just building and creating great things, I think that it can become a little bit of a crutch and a little bit

of, I don't know, an impediment to focusing on your own stuff and doing your own thing.

That's why we have a great AI czar here in David Sachs, but we're really focused on how does America just do as well as we possibly can.

Yes, we want to stay ahead of China, but we want to stay ahead of everybody else because this is America and we want it to stay the greatest country in the world.

Yeah, so as the president said, it's a bit of a balance, right?

There are certain critical elements of our technology stack.

There are certain critical technologies.

We know that some Chinese firms engage in IP theft, so we don't want to give them our very best stuff because we're worried a little bit that they might steal it.

But of course, there are certain industries that we want to sell into China.

We actually want to broaden American workers' access to the world.

And part of our frustration with China is on the one hand, they steal some of our newest technology.

And on the other hand, they don't let American-made products into their country.

What we want to do is actually reverse that.

We want to sell American-made products into China, but we don't want to allow them to steal our critical intellectual property.

And we have to strike that balance in a much better way.

And not just the Biden administration, but better than the

the Obama administration and the Bush administration did too.