Jean Luo

That might scare them off, actually.

I really don't know.

And the rest was history.

Well, I love this discussion about family.

And we want to transition into the relationship that you have with your brothers because you are a powerhouse family.

Like you, of course, have a legacy in Washington and in policy in Chicago.

One of your brothers helped shape healthcare policy for the nation, and another one is a media mogul, CEO.

And you guys are very much like the Tiger brothers of our Tiger sisters, if you look at it in that way.

And so I'm so curious what that dynamic was like growing up in terms of competition and nowadays when you guys debate who wins.

How contrarian.

I saw Jean have a fabulous time at Harvard.

And since I have a luxury of having an older sibling carve the path for me and pioneer the way, I said, why not do it on the opposite side of the country?

But I guess the real answer is Jean had like such an amazing experience that it's something she'll look back on when she's 80 years old and be like two years younger.

You know, going to classes, being a student again.

I was pretty burnt out because I was coming right out of the pandemic.

I hadn't met anyone new for the last like two or three years.

And I felt very like flatlined in my career.

I didn't feel like I was like learning as much as I had.

Yes, which I think is actually fundamental to Tiger Sisters Podcasts.

where we give career advice, corporate advice, how to behave in a professional environment.