Jeff Cavaliere

And the second thing is that I had the unfortunate but fortunate experience of having to deal with a lot of these things for my life in the early years.

And even still now, I still do things that cause inflammation and a need to reassess and look at what I'm doing and maybe why.

And like you, I knew when I first started experiencing that pain also in my 20s, that wasn't, I didn't have an elbow issue.

There's nothing structurally wrong with my elbow.

So I had to look somewhere else.

I didn't look then, but I looked when I got older and had way too many of those incidents happen.

So it forces you to look and it forces me to look.

I have to look because this is what I do for a living, but it forces me to look and figure out what's causing this.

And more importantly, what can you do to stop it?

Yeah.

Good point here too is on top of the thumbs is, you know, not just the flipping of the hand itself through supination and pronation of the forearm, but literally letting the elbow kind of travel with that, right?

So you're letting everything move together because it's the rotation that's happening in this joint, this ball and socket up top.

Shoulders got to rotate out.

With it, with it.

Yeah, which is key.

The issue with internal rotation, external rotation is that they're both motions of the shoulder, right?

We need both of them.

We need to be able, if you go back to the pitcher, he needs to be able to externally rotate and then, of course, internally rotate to throw the ball.

I'm not saying that internal rotation is...

What we need, though, is the ability to control internal rotation.