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Jeff Dean

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

So people are going to want to spend some fraction of world GDP on this thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

The world GDP is almost certainly going to go way, way up to orders of magnitude higher than it is today due to the fact

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

that we have all of these artificial engineers working on improving things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Probably we will have solved unlimited energy and carbon issues by that point.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

So we should be able to have lots of energy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

We should be able to have millions to billions of robots building us data centers.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Like, let's see, the sun is, what, 10 to the 26th watts or something like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

I mean, I'm guessing that the amount of compute being used for AI to help each person will be astronomical.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

That would be so nice.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

You could just glue models together or rip out pieces of models and shove them into other, like Dr. Frankenstein-y kind of thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Or you just attach a fire hose and you suck all the information out of this model and shove it into another model.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

There is, I mean, the countervailing interest there is sort of science in terms of like, OK, we're still in the period of rapid progress.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

So if you want to do sort of controlled experiments

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

OK, I want to compare this thing to that thing because that is helping us figure out, OK, what do you want to build?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

So in that interest, it's often best to just start from scratch so you can compare one complete training run to another complete training run sort of at the practical level.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

because it kind of helps us figure out what to build in the future.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And it's less exciting, but does lead to rapid progress.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Actually, that could lead to faster research progress, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

You've got some system and you do something to improve it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And if that thing you're doing to improve it is...