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Jeff Dean

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Yeah, we need better distillation.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Yeah.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Anyone out there invents amazing distillation techniques that instantly distill from a giant blob onto your phone.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

That would be wonderful.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Well, I just want it to work faster.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Right, right.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

There's got to be some way to get more from the same data, make it learn it forwards and backwards.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Yeah, the image people didn't have enough labeled data, so they had to invent all this crazy stuff.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

I mean, like a person has seen like a billion tokens.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Yeah.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

I mean, people can learn a lot from thought experiments that don't even involve extra input.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And like Einstein learned a lot of the stuff from thought experiments or like Newton, like

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

went into quarantine and got an apple dropped on his head or something and invented gravity.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And mathematicians, math didn't have any extra input.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Chess, okay, you have the thing play chess against itself and it gets good at chess.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

That was DeepMind.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

But also, all it needs is the rules of chess.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

So there's actually probably a lot of...

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

somehow a lot of learning that you can do even without external data.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And then you can make it in exactly the fields that you care about.