Jeff Dye

Yeah.

Because I was like, I don't know.

I'm trying to explain something scientific that I don't know nothing about.

But if I had to describe how it felt, it felt like it connected things for me.

Where I was like, oh, I need to be a little bit more, I need to work on this, or I need to check in with so-and-so, or I need to let go of that.

And that was all because of, I kind of came back a different guy after mushrooms.

That perception.

I love that.

Dude.

People love being wronged.

Yes.

It's such a treat for them to hold on to their wrong, the things they've been wronged.

And so that's such a great way to describe that.

Because really my failures and my flaws and the things I want to work on and all that stuff are the connection.

Like when I was able to go, man, I think I really have a problem here and I need some help, people were excited to help me.

Because it gave them a chance to help and serve and connect.

And so as opposed to me thinking I needed to pretend I didn't have a problem or they wouldn't be my friends, it made them so much better friends knowing like, oh, we can help them.

And that's just, I keep using sobriety as an example, but just in general, the connection is...

It can be done.

I was describing my buddy Chris the other day like what I think the problem is.