Jeff Dye

And that is therapy, having to put it into the words to explain or defend your position or justify your idea or justify your moral stance on something.

And that is therapy.

Because now you're like, wow, like some things that you think are normal, once you articulate, you realize are absurd.

My therapist, we're talking about the 90s, and I'm like, can you believe we were just pantsing people?

I've never really thought about it.

It was just like, yeah, you pants people.

But when you really had to explain what it was, where you're like, yeah, you'd wait for your friend who trusts you.

Yeah, yeah.

to be like holding a tray of food or something, and then you would just pants him in front of the whole school, which is a trauma for sure, and then if he told on you, you'd act incredulous like, oh God.

All we did was pull his pants and underwear down in front of the whole school, and now he told on us?

We're gonna have to beat the out of that guy.

He snitched on us for the crimes we did to him.

And then now your friend starts wearing his sister's eyeliner to school.

He gets really into the cure.

And he starts working at GameStop for 30 years, all because you and your buddies wanted to pay.

It's insane.

Once you have to say it, then it becomes, you realize the gravity of all these things.

You know, like, explain why you feel this way about your daughter or something.

And when they have to, like, really say it, they're really thinking about it.

And that's why they get choked up.