Jeff Dye

And I think that's where conservatives struggle.

I'm a conservative and I struggle with, I'm so right about a lot of these issues because I've brain busted the words and the articulating and the defending and the arguing, but I haven't been very nice about it.

Because I'm so, it's liberty, stupid.

Yeah, yeah, right, right.

But then that forces you to go, okay, this is a fair question and I need to work on my heart about this.

I'm being a little hard on these trans people and I should be more sensitive.

And then they're gonna hear it because I've got all the facts.

That's consent?

Yeah, that's an image in my mind now that I did not really expect.

Because you could say that's too... Do you know what I'm saying?

But these are the kind of conversations you have to really defend your position on.

One thing that I think what you just reminded me of while we were talking about it is that...

you know, like racists, like racist people.

There are very evil racist people.

Well, they're not evil, but they're racist people.

And we're taught and we're teaching young people to just hate them.

They're the worst, and that's the worst thing you can be.

Or...

Let's be nice and teach them that being racist is ignorant and stupid.

Where's your compassion for these people?