Jeff Hathorne

Joe, I've got another list for you.

We want to do that after the break.

He's made the biggest defense of Ben so far by anybody.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, so I was in downtown State College that night, but I did not see anything.

I didn't hear anything.

I didn't leave until late Sunday, and there was no whispers or rumblings, at least, that came to my attention.

I caught wind of somebody on Twitter put out eye emojis with McKenna late Tuesday night, and I was wondering, huh, what could this be?

And then everything came crashing down the middle of the...

I don't think, like 3 o'clock hour yesterday where, wow.

Yeah.

So basically what I have seen is that it was there was a team function at an establishment, a popular establishment at Penn State.

And the guy was being the guy was harassing Gavin McKenna's mother and family and just continued just to go at them.

And the altercation occurred in the it wasn't in the bar.

It was in the street outside of the establishment.

And that's where the report, or multiple people have put out there, again, just allegedly, that the guy's jaw was broken.

I think that was in the Onward State report that was put out there officially.

And that he needed, a tooth was missing and needed corrective surgery to fix the broken jaw, which is going to take a while to be able to heal, obviously.

But that the guy just kept going at McKenna and McKenna struck back.