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Jeff Horing

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

And then everything else is just a spreadsheet sits in between.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

And you're just trying to as accurately as possible, put that spreadsheet together, risk adjust it, and then put a price against it and say, what's it going to be worth?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

There's a very big range of strategy that sits in that middle.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

And that was a view that we had.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

Why constrain ourselves?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

Up until 2017, late stage pre-IPO growth was a really cool market.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

Multiples were expanding.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

Companies were growing really fast, typically longer and faster than you expected.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

You could actually make four or five times your money on those pre-IPO rounds, even more if you did the consumer internet stuff.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

And then it started getting really competitive.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

Hedge funds came in, sovereign wealths came in.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

And as I mentioned earlier, some of those rounds are now getting modeled at two to three X. A lot of things have to go right.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

So we said, well, we see it all.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

We can model them all.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

Why can't we just put risk against that model and try and find the markets that are the most attractive?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

The market recently corrected in 21.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

there wasn't a lot of things that you wanted to touch in growth.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

A lot of the companies that raised a ton of monies that didn't need it, but the ones that needed it, you didn't necessarily want to invest in.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

But then this whole middle got neglected again.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]

We were like, oh, let's go lean back in on the middle where you've got these 30% growers that look really nice.