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Jeff Kao

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
514 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

it's it the the rabbit hole goes goes very deep with with address validation so at that time we didn't really we were using an open source service for geocoding but there wasn't really a way for us to essentially ingest these ranges and validate addresses so that was sort of the main motivation for us to come up with something new and so

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

Our tech stack, you know, at that time didn't have any Rust.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

We have some front end, you know, services written with React and Next and JavaScript.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

And then our API server was written in TypeScript.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

We had some like data processing jobs in Spark and Scala.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

And then we use Airflow.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

So some Python as well.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

But nothing really, you know, statically compiled or, I mean, there's TypeScript, but more in the sense of like, you know, these things translate into some bytecode sort of like a JVM or into native instructions.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

And we were sort of expecting...

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

We had more constraints about like, oh, if we want to build a service that does things like this and it overlaps so much with geocoding, we might as well just sort of replace the service because we had some operational issues with our existing geocoder, which we can talk about later.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

And so there was sort of a motivation to use something that, whether it's like an external service, like something like Elasticsearch,

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

or, you know, having something like all in one.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

Operationally, like we sort of got burnt by like having so many like external services that we were almost sort of motivated to have something that would just let us do everything on almost one package almost.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

So we were considering a couple of different options.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

And it's funny because at our company, we write like tech specs or essentially design documents before we sort of go into building some larger projects or like features or things that will have like big downstream impacts.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

So like actually looking at back at the doc, we were considering a couple of languages.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

So, and we sort of discussed the trade-offs there.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

So we were thinking about Kotlin

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

And the thinking around there is that the Java and JVM ecosystem is very rich.

Rust in Production
Radar with Jeff Kao

From my personal experience, I think Scala is very complicated.