Jeff Krasno

Totally. It doesn't necessarily have to be the clinical terminus of respiratory and cardiac function or whatever. It can be other forms of metaphorical death. But if I look across human history... We spent an inordinate amount of effort and time killing off all of our predators. For thousands and thousands of years, we basically forced into extinction the most...

Totally. It doesn't necessarily have to be the clinical terminus of respiratory and cardiac function or whatever. It can be other forms of metaphorical death. But if I look across human history... We spent an inordinate amount of effort and time killing off all of our predators. For thousands and thousands of years, we basically forced into extinction the most...

Totally. It doesn't necessarily have to be the clinical terminus of respiratory and cardiac function or whatever. It can be other forms of metaphorical death. But if I look across human history... We spent an inordinate amount of effort and time killing off all of our predators. For thousands and thousands of years, we basically forced into extinction the most...

fabulous, wonderful megafauna, like these wombats and giant massive 4,000 pound bears and like saber tooth tigers. And we have this hostile relationship with nature because we're so scared. Of dying. And then, you know, Louis Pasteur comes around in the mid-1800s and says, oh, no, no, no, no. It's not just the things bigger than you that are going to kill you.

fabulous, wonderful megafauna, like these wombats and giant massive 4,000 pound bears and like saber tooth tigers. And we have this hostile relationship with nature because we're so scared. Of dying. And then, you know, Louis Pasteur comes around in the mid-1800s and says, oh, no, no, no, no. It's not just the things bigger than you that are going to kill you.

fabulous, wonderful megafauna, like these wombats and giant massive 4,000 pound bears and like saber tooth tigers. And we have this hostile relationship with nature because we're so scared. Of dying. And then, you know, Louis Pasteur comes around in the mid-1800s and says, oh, no, no, no, no. It's not just the things bigger than you that are going to kill you.

It's also the things smaller than you. The ones that you can't see. They're pathogens. They're viruses and bacteria. Beware. So now we've spent, what did we do? Very human response. We spent the last 165 years killing off everything smaller than us. All the bacteria, all the viruses.

It's also the things smaller than you. The ones that you can't see. They're pathogens. They're viruses and bacteria. Beware. So now we've spent, what did we do? Very human response. We spent the last 165 years killing off everything smaller than us. All the bacteria, all the viruses.

It's also the things smaller than you. The ones that you can't see. They're pathogens. They're viruses and bacteria. Beware. So now we've spent, what did we do? Very human response. We spent the last 165 years killing off everything smaller than us. All the bacteria, all the viruses.

And, you know, I'm joking a little bit because in some ways that was a very good thing, for example, to develop like a smallpox vaccine or something. The point is that we've essentially eliminated all of our predators. And when you eliminate all your predators, you only have yourself to kill. And in that respect, we seem to be doing a fine job.

And, you know, I'm joking a little bit because in some ways that was a very good thing, for example, to develop like a smallpox vaccine or something. The point is that we've essentially eliminated all of our predators. And when you eliminate all your predators, you only have yourself to kill. And in that respect, we seem to be doing a fine job.

And, you know, I'm joking a little bit because in some ways that was a very good thing, for example, to develop like a smallpox vaccine or something. The point is that we've essentially eliminated all of our predators. And when you eliminate all your predators, you only have yourself to kill. And in that respect, we seem to be doing a fine job.

Yeah, I think that so much of our freedom really is in some ways reframing our relationship with nature. Like our Abrahamic traditions are pretty harsh about nature, right? They're like, okay, humans, you're the CEOs, you are supposed to subdue and have dominion over nature. because it comes up, in the best case, as weeds and pests, right? So spray it and kill it.

Yeah, I think that so much of our freedom really is in some ways reframing our relationship with nature. Like our Abrahamic traditions are pretty harsh about nature, right? They're like, okay, humans, you're the CEOs, you are supposed to subdue and have dominion over nature. because it comes up, in the best case, as weeds and pests, right? So spray it and kill it.

Yeah, I think that so much of our freedom really is in some ways reframing our relationship with nature. Like our Abrahamic traditions are pretty harsh about nature, right? They're like, okay, humans, you're the CEOs, you are supposed to subdue and have dominion over nature. because it comes up, in the best case, as weeds and pests, right? So spray it and kill it.

But particularly spray and kill the part of yourself that is nature, because it's sinful, right? We call that human nature. And if we didn't have, like, a Merlin in a wizard's cap, you know, with a dusty old scroll sitting above us with some moral abacus, like, monitoring our sexual transgressions, we might, like, rape our best friend or something like that. I mean, it's fucking crazy.

But particularly spray and kill the part of yourself that is nature, because it's sinful, right? We call that human nature. And if we didn't have, like, a Merlin in a wizard's cap, you know, with a dusty old scroll sitting above us with some moral abacus, like, monitoring our sexual transgressions, we might, like, rape our best friend or something like that. I mean, it's fucking crazy.

But particularly spray and kill the part of yourself that is nature, because it's sinful, right? We call that human nature. And if we didn't have, like, a Merlin in a wizard's cap, you know, with a dusty old scroll sitting above us with some moral abacus, like, monitoring our sexual transgressions, we might, like, rape our best friend or something like that. I mean, it's fucking crazy.

So we're taught to really distrust the part of ourselves that is nature because it's made out of clay and it'll go back to dust. And what we're really supposed to focus on is this other part of ourselves called the soul because God literally breathed it in through our nostril in the book of Genesis. And the soul is eternal and it's divine.

So we're taught to really distrust the part of ourselves that is nature because it's made out of clay and it'll go back to dust. And what we're really supposed to focus on is this other part of ourselves called the soul because God literally breathed it in through our nostril in the book of Genesis. And the soul is eternal and it's divine.