Jeff Lash

But it made sense to me.

And I remember about two months in to that job, kind of realizing it just clicked.

And I started learning about what real product management is.

And so much of it overlapped with everything that I had done up to that point.

So the technology, obviously, from growing up around it, the marketing and positioning and branding stuff that I learned in school, and then a lot of the user experience concepts, doing customer interviews and understanding needs and prioritizing and things like that.

So it really, to me, is this

combination of all the different things in my background.

And so that, you know, I've been doing that for two decades or so now since just following along that path.

So I think, you know, long answer to your question of what shaped me, it's really those different things.

Like I am probably, you know, there's different types of product managers, some people that come from more of a, you know, technology background or a sales background.

I come from probably more of the UX and business background.

Like I'm always thinking about

you know, what can we do that would be good for our customers, but that also will be successful for the business.

That's kind of my dominant mentality.

There's other people that know technology better than me and even the nuances of your experience, but really it's about, I think what's really shaped me is that idea of if we can create products that are good for the customers, it will also be good for our business.

Yeah, we we have very similar backgrounds.

When you were talking about product management didn't really exist.

We called it business analysis when I started.

And, you know, now that means something totally different.

But, yeah, going through the data, data organized, data oriented process.