Jeff Melnick

They just had very typically absent 1950s dads. Dad went out to work during the day, didn't really have much to do with the family. And to get this kind of attention from an older man, I think was really hypnotic for a lot of women. And so we talked about it in terms of his eyes, but I really think our focus should be on the kind of whole package is that he knew how to lock in.

They just had very typically absent 1950s dads. Dad went out to work during the day, didn't really have much to do with the family. And to get this kind of attention from an older man, I think was really hypnotic for a lot of women. And so we talked about it in terms of his eyes, but I really think our focus should be on the kind of whole package is that he knew how to lock in.

I think that's right. And I'm really glad you framed it as such, Don, because it's like we're all still like in the thrall of the prosecutor. You know, Vincent Bugliosi's Helter Skelter and the race war narrative, which I'm I'm sure we'll take a minute to talk about, but you know, Manson, his animus, his engine of his resentment is that he can't make it in the music business.

I think that's right. And I'm really glad you framed it as such, Don, because it's like we're all still like in the thrall of the prosecutor. You know, Vincent Bugliosi's Helter Skelter and the race war narrative, which I'm I'm sure we'll take a minute to talk about, but you know, Manson, his animus, his engine of his resentment is that he can't make it in the music business.

I think that's right. And I'm really glad you framed it as such, Don, because it's like we're all still like in the thrall of the prosecutor. You know, Vincent Bugliosi's Helter Skelter and the race war narrative, which I'm I'm sure we'll take a minute to talk about, but you know, Manson, his animus, his engine of his resentment is that he can't make it in the music business.

Like he, he has like a solid year at LA where like he believes his own, like he's high on his own supply. Like he believes his own story. He thinks he's going to be a star. He does not get that while he's playing Dennis Wilson and Terry Melcher for certain things, they're playing him as well. So, you know, he has a formal audition and he blows it, you know, like he by his own account.

Like he, he has like a solid year at LA where like he believes his own, like he's high on his own supply. Like he believes his own story. He thinks he's going to be a star. He does not get that while he's playing Dennis Wilson and Terry Melcher for certain things, they're playing him as well. So, you know, he has a formal audition and he blows it, you know, like he by his own account.

Like he, he has like a solid year at LA where like he believes his own, like he's high on his own supply. Like he believes his own story. He thinks he's going to be a star. He does not get that while he's playing Dennis Wilson and Terry Melcher for certain things, they're playing him as well. So, you know, he has a formal audition and he blows it, you know, like he by his own account.

He's like he freezes up. He can't sing into a microphone. He's not a professional musician. Like he's just not. He's he's cool around a campfire, you know, and we've all seen that. Right. Like we've all seen that guy who, you know, who who takes over the campfire and sing some songs. And that's cool. But he's not. He's not at all a trained musician.

He's like he freezes up. He can't sing into a microphone. He's not a professional musician. Like he's just not. He's he's cool around a campfire, you know, and we've all seen that. Right. Like we've all seen that guy who, you know, who who takes over the campfire and sing some songs. And that's cool. But he's not. He's not at all a trained musician.

He's like he freezes up. He can't sing into a microphone. He's not a professional musician. Like he's just not. He's he's cool around a campfire, you know, and we've all seen that. Right. Like we've all seen that guy who, you know, who who takes over the campfire and sing some songs. And that's cool. But he's not. He's not at all a trained musician.

He doesn't know how to, how to play in a, you know, in a studio. And Terry Melcher at that point, like basically throws him to an associate of his who's like got anthropological interest. He's a guy who had gone out, you know, you know, recording native American, you know, tribes and, and so on. And it's like, you might like this guy.

He doesn't know how to, how to play in a, you know, in a studio. And Terry Melcher at that point, like basically throws him to an associate of his who's like got anthropological interest. He's a guy who had gone out, you know, you know, recording native American, you know, tribes and, and so on. And it's like, you might like this guy.

He doesn't know how to, how to play in a, you know, in a studio. And Terry Melcher at that point, like basically throws him to an associate of his who's like got anthropological interest. He's a guy who had gone out, you know, you know, recording native American, you know, tribes and, and so on. And it's like, you might like this guy.

He's, he's kind of like, you know, it's kind of tribal, you know, and Manson cannot believe it. He cannot believe he's not getting a contract. And you know, to his, to his, I don't want to say it's to his credit, but like folks who heard him play thought that he could have been brought along. Like Neil Young very famously said, if Manson had the right band, he could have been like mid-60s Dylan.

He's, he's kind of like, you know, it's kind of tribal, you know, and Manson cannot believe it. He cannot believe he's not getting a contract. And you know, to his, to his, I don't want to say it's to his credit, but like folks who heard him play thought that he could have been brought along. Like Neil Young very famously said, if Manson had the right band, he could have been like mid-60s Dylan.

He's, he's kind of like, you know, it's kind of tribal, you know, and Manson cannot believe it. He cannot believe he's not getting a contract. And you know, to his, to his, I don't want to say it's to his credit, but like folks who heard him play thought that he could have been brought along. Like Neil Young very famously said, if Manson had the right band, he could have been like mid-60s Dylan.

Like he could have been that kind of like wild electric sound. But he didn't. Like he was too full of himself. He thought everyone wanted to hang on every word of every song he wrote. But he couldn't. And Terry Melcher basically cuts him. I mean, it's Terry Melcher's the heart of this story. In what way?

Like he could have been that kind of like wild electric sound. But he didn't. Like he was too full of himself. He thought everyone wanted to hang on every word of every song he wrote. But he couldn't. And Terry Melcher basically cuts him. I mean, it's Terry Melcher's the heart of this story. In what way?

Like he could have been that kind of like wild electric sound. But he didn't. Like he was too full of himself. He thought everyone wanted to hang on every word of every song he wrote. But he couldn't. And Terry Melcher basically cuts him. I mean, it's Terry Melcher's the heart of this story. In what way?