Jeff Menell

So you have to work extra hard and you have to push the narrative in a way that doesn't compromise who you are and your integrity.

In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze.

Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop.

What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever.

But it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark.

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Greg Gillespie and Michael Marangini.

There was absolutely no universe where the three of us could close out the Boy Meets World episode recaps without welcoming back one of the only faces we saw through the show's entire run, or at least a face we were always happy to see.

He joined the show in season one, a childhood friend of Michael Jacobs, who had already made a career out of writing about TV and movies.

Boy Meets World finally gave him the opportunity to start making some himself.

Why don't you just move to LA and try it out?

Turned into seven seasons, over 11 scripts with his name on the cover, a producing title and an eventual Emmy nomination for his work on Girl Meets World.

It doesn't matter who we asked to do the podcast.

If you worked behind the scenes on Boy Meets World and we mentioned Jeff Manel, you smile.

This teddy bear not only contributed countless legendary moments to the show, including the quintessential and then there was Sean episode, but he was also a crucial addition to the spirit and well-being of the writer's room.

And he continues to spearhead the camaraderie of the show even 30 years later.

He's always a phone call away, not only to us, but to anyone who shares the IMDb credit of our cult classic TGIF sitcom.

I hate to think this term downgrades his importance to the creativity of the show because he was vital to its heartbeat.

But if Boy Meets World had a mascot, it's Jeff Manel.

So to talk to us about the end of the show and hopefully answer some questions we have about season seven, a time when he wrote two episodes, the already recapped Angela's Men and the soon to be broken down The Provider.