Jeff Nuccetelli

But I hadn't seen anything at Vandenberg up until that day in October. Yeah.

Yeah. It's actually not like publicly available anywhere. I've shared it with Congress and Arrow and the FBI.

Make sure people see it. Yeah, you can. Absolutely. I would like people, I want the public to be aware this is happening and it's real. So yeah.

Yeah. So we came on duty that evening and I, me and some of my friends were like, you know, in, in quite a state, like excited. So I was going out UFO hunting that night. So I went up to the armory. I got some NVGs. I got a thermal portable thermal imager, some binocs and me and my buddies went out hunting UFOs. So, um, I was out some period. We think this happened around midnight.

I had been out on the coast, you know, watching the skies for a while. And I had this moment of kind of clarity where I'm like, oh, my God, you know, I'm out here alone. And if this thing shows up, I don't know what's going to happen. So I got freaked out and I drove back to the command center. And I got there and I took off my gun belt and I was chilling out on the command center with my buddies.

And we were talking about all of it. And then a radio transmission came in from Space Launch Facility 4. And that's located on the opposite end of the base down on the south end. And that is our largest or was our largest launch pad on Vandenberg. That's where we put all the really big rockets up. And I believe that's where SpaceX launches from now.

So the transmission comes in something to the effect like be advised, we've got a weird light over the water to the west moving erratically. And my friend Brandon was the controller at the time. And, you know, he's like, all right, roger that. Be advised. You know, everybody be on the lookout. Keep an eye on it. Keep us updated. And I'm like, okay, I better roll site. You know, I grab my gear.

I start getting ready to go. And then more transmissions come in more frantic. And they're saying, hey, you know, this object appears to be getting closer. It's moving very strangely, not at all like an aircraft. It's getting larger and brighter. And then just all hell broke loose. And the radio transmissions get very, you know, frantic and garbled. And I'm hearing yelling.

I got there in 1999. I left Vandenberg in 2006. So I walked over and all at once they all start to tell me that at 0845 that morning we had a real world UFO event at Launch Facility 21 on the north end of the base. And these contractors were working on site One of them walked outside and noticed there was this gigantic red glowing square shaped object hovering at low altitude over the launch pad.

They're saying, it's coming right at us. It's coming right for us. Oh, my God, it's right here. It's right on top of us. And by this point, I'm driving. You know, I'm code three, lights, sirens going. I'm on this windy road. It's usually like a 15, maybe 25 minute drive there. I probably got there in like less than 10 minutes.

And I've got my head out the window, you know, and I'm looking for things, listening to the transmissions. And I remember distinctly a moment where they called in and they said, it's shot off, it's gone. So there was like a lull. And I was hearing transmissions from other patrols and posts down on South Base. They're like, yeah, yeah, I've got visual, you know, and I've lost visual.

So it was really chaotic. So I get to the site. I get to the entry control point. And there's five people that are working there on duty. They're all together. I think they were all together when this happened because they had heard the patrol call and the weird lights. So everybody kind of congregated at the entry control point. to watch what was going on. And I talked to everybody.

I got written statements. And what happened was they, just like I said, they watched this thing acting weirdly. They couldn't really see any details. It's a strange glowing light performing not like an aircraft, moving erratically. And then they said it just zoomed in. And as it approached, the light went out. And then it just stopped and hovered at low altitude, very near the entry control point.

And they said it was just so massive, it was hard to describe. At least 100 yards, but probably more because it was this black matte color. And they described it, again, as either like rectangular or possibly square. Absolutely no noise. And they were all together observing it. And then it just shot off like a cannon and vanished.

It could be. It absolutely could be. The time frame, as long as the observational period, I believe the initial red square event, they did observe it for, you know, 10 minutes or more. I think it was there for a while. But this one happened very quick. This all unfolded within a few minutes, and then they observed it for about 45 seconds, and then it was gone.

The Red Square was 8.45 in the morning. This was around midnight or...

They described it as... it looked like it was getting bigger and the light was getting brighter as it came in. So it would kind of almost look like an aircraft on approach with like really bright approach lights on. But then as it got closer, the lights just went out. Wow. Was there also a landing? Yeah.

In that same time period, we know that the landing occurred sometime between October 14th and October 31st. because the direct eyewitness deployed to Iraq on Halloween night. And he's another close friend of mine. We worked together. I was his supervisor. And that particular night, he was on a security patrol located near the flight line. And him and his partner, same thing.

They observe a strange, weird light over the Western Ocean. They know this was weird because the flight line at the time was shut down. No aircraft inbound or outbound. And as police, we know that. We track aircraft coming in and where they're parked and things like that. So they knew the flight line was shut down and not active. All the runway lights were off.

And they see a light, again, like just kind of out there over the ocean, very bright, kind of moving strangely. They observed it for some period of time. And eventually they called it in over the net. They're like, we've got another weird light. It doesn't look like an aircraft. It's just kind of out there. And this kind of unfolded very rapidly, too.

So it looked like it was getting closer and it looked like it was dropping in altitude and looked like it was an aircraft on approach. Now, we have incidents like that happen. in the Air Force, and it's called an unannounced aircraft arrival. And it's one of the most serious security events we can have in the Air Force. You cannot have unknowns approaching and landing on your base, right?

So it looks like it's approaching. So they called in, be advised we have a possible unannounced aircraft arrival. So this triggers a massive response. People start to respond. And I was not on duty for this because my guy was actually assigned to another flight. That's why he was on security. He was typically a law enforcement troop.

But because of manpower and he was getting ready to deploy, he was backfilling another flight. So anyway, they call it in. People are responding. And as that's happening, it rapidly comes down. to the runway. They lose sight of it behind some trees. There's a tree line between the witnesses in the flight line. They can only see this weirdish whitish blue light.

Was there also a landing?

They watch it drop below the tree line. So the trees are, you know, 30 or maybe 50 feet tall. And then it comes down and either hovered or landed directly on the flight line. And then according to my friend Grant that called it in, he said as soon as it was there, it was gone. It just instantaneously shot into the sky and accelerated and vanished into the night sky.

yeah we had in that same time period this is the you call it the blotter right security forces blotter people can see this right they can see the account as recorded yeah it's actually not uh like publicly available anywhere i've shared it with congress and arrow and the fbi and can we can we put it out for this episode make sure people see it yeah you can absolutely i would like uh people i want the public to be aware this is happening and it's real so yeah

So it was just there for like a flash. And by the time the security patrols arrived on scene, there was nothing there. So that case was different. Because after they kind of wrapped up the incident and they took all the data, my buddy and his partner were approached by an Air Force colonel. They came out to their post. They were still on duty.

They came out to their truck and met with them and did kind of an impromptu, unofficial debriefing. He wanted to know what they saw. He was interested in all the data. They told him what they could. They didn't really have any details. They never saw anything other than a light. There's this weird big light that landed. So that happened.

And then either the next day or within a few days, my friend was called in and debriefed. And that became very uncomfortable. He was made to feel uncomfortable. He felt like they were inferring that he did something wrong, that he probably shouldn't have called it in. So things got very sketchy.

He was forced to sign documents he can't quite remember, like if that was an NDA or it might have just been another statement, more detailed narrative. But it was very uncomfortable. And they basically sent him a message like, you know, you need to keep your mouth shut.

Yeah. And this guy, this guy is not easily intimidated, man. He grew up in Oklahoma. He's like a rancher. He used to go jogging during mortar attacks in Iraq. This guy is not rattled, dude. And he was rattled bad to the point where when that happened, he he drove directly to my house, knocked on my door. I was like, dude, I don't know what is going on, but they scared the shit out of me.

We're in trouble. So, yeah. So the attitude and everything changed after that landing. Okay. We started to be more careful about who we're talking to.

So the whole thing, while I was out like investigating this, talking to people, I never got to see anything. I never saw the light. I never. And I was so bummed out because I'm like, this is literally happening in real time around me and I'm missing out. Right. And so we think this happened around April. By this time, I'm the non-commissioned officer in charge of law enforcement.

I'm in charge of the law enforcement program on the base. So we think it was around my birthday because I had a party. You know, all the flight, all my, you know, my buddies I work with were over at my house barbecuing. Party wound down. And then around like midnight again, me and two of my good friends, Brandon and Phoenix, they were dating at the time. Now they're married.

They've been married for like 20-something years. We're sitting in my backyard on the base in base housing. My wife at the time was asleep in the house. And we were just sitting around the campfire, you know, drinking beer. And we were talking about all the UFO stuff.

Because Brandon's father had been in the Navy and had witnessed another insane event up in the Seattle area that was all over the papers and things. So we were having this deep conversation about the phenomenon and everything. And Phoenix was distracted. She kept looking over her shoulder. And finally, you know, we're like, what are you doing? She's like, do you guys see that light?

We're like, what? We all stand up, and I get away from the fire, and I look, and it looks like a satellite at extreme altitude. And it looked just like a satellite. You know, it's tracking from west to east, very high altitude. But it was weird because it was pulsating in this very, like, sort of slow, rhythmic rhythm.

way and the light was strange it was kind of scintillating and it was this whitish blue this beautiful whitish blue color so we watched it for a while and we're going through like oh that's satellite brands like dude i don't know why is it good so we're going through the whole thing like what is it why is it acting like that and then it starts to maneuver strangely It starts to drop in altitude.

And at one point, it looked like it was fluttering around like a leaf. And we're all like, whoa, what is going on? And eventually, it gets lower and lower. And there were points of time where it would kind of wink out. We'd lose it. And right after one of those times, the sky was clear. We could see the stars. And eventually, like, it winked back in, and it was right over the house.

I estimated at the time it was, like, 500 feet up. Phoenix said about 200, 250 feet. I estimated it at about 50 feet in diameter. She said about 30. But it was this huge, glowing, bluish-white, liquidy orb. And it was just sitting there. And we were just in complete awe, complete shock. And then it like vanished. It just was gone. And I blinked a couple times. I looked at my friends.

And then I'm like, okay, just keep your eyes on the spot. And I did that. And for some reason, my eyes were tracking this way and my body turned. And then when it reappeared, my eyes were right on it. It had tracked, I don't know, like maybe 100 yards. And I was looking directly at it and it had gone up. And it just sat there for a little bit.

It wasn't pulsing anymore like it had been at high altitude. And then I had this moment of like sheer primal terror. And this thought popped into my head. I'm like, oh, my God, like did that did it just abduct my my wife? Is it going to abduct us? Like what is going on? And I just took a breath. I calmed down and I just I'm like, don't look away. And we just watched it. And then it sort of gently.

Accelerated, not like fast, and it just. kept climbing, and it went like it would have been north, sort of northeast. And we just watched it kind of gently accelerate, accelerate and climb in altitude until it became indistinguishable from the stars. And it was gone. And we were just like, what happened? So I ran into the house. I picked up my landline. I called the command center.

I'm like, hey, man, you know, I know this sounds like, fucking crazy, but here's what just happened. And this is probably like midnight, one in the morning. And I'm like, I know you don't want to do this, but I'm like, you need to wake some people up. You need to call the command post. You need to call the commander. You need to call, make all the notifications. I call me back.

I want to know whether I want to know balloons. I want to know radar on and off. So probably 15 or 20 minutes went by, you know, the guy's like, dude, like really, you want me to call the commander, right? I'm like, wake him up. They did all that. They called back and they're like, dude, nothing on radar, nothing. We made all the notifications.

I told them, cool, put in the blotter, put all the info, me, Brandon, Phoenix, type it up. When I come in in the morning, I'll write up a statement and I'll write up a report and we'll log it. And I did all that the next day. And then I was in your house. It was right over my house. It was right over there.

It changed every aspect of my life. It was a life-changing experience on every fundamental level, man. I've never stopped looking up. And that's when I really I was always interested in UFOs and stuff because my grandmother's case. And I didn't mention my dad actually saw the Kecksburg fireball from Kecksburg, Pennsylvania. I grew up in a coal mining town about 30 or 40 miles from Kecksburg.

My dad was a coal miner. And when he was young, he saw that fireball come in and he heard the boom, you know, the crash or the sonic boom or whatever happened. But he, you know, and that turned into like, that's the Roswell of Pennsylvania.

Yeah. And so I was always interested, but then it happened and I'm like, you know, then I got really interested. That's when I really started, you know, digging into old cases and trying to piece together. Like what the, what is it? Why did it come? Was it a coincidence that we were talking about it? and all that. And over the years, I'm like, there, there are no coincidences, man. I don't know.

But, uh, it, it came and said, hello.

So I've, it was hard for me to come out, man. Like, uh, prior to going on merge, I had no social media, you know, I'm a very private person and it was hard for me to do that. And I was able to do that because my, when it came out in the hearing, I had not talked to any of those guys that witnessed this stuff. And then it just came out and I was not expecting it.

So I had to call my buddies and tell them, dude, I got us into some, some shit here. And, But I was able to go on Merged and do all that because I knew they had my back. And I knew if the whole world turned on me, they've got me. So I did all of it because over the years, I knew this stuff was real. And I knew that military people were encountering UFOs and weird stuff.

And I would see the debunkers and the skeptics. And I would hear the X-Files music on TV. And I would get angry. And I'm like, people don't know this is happening. It has a profound impact and sometimes a very negative impact on people's lives. It had a good impact on my life. But I know people that have had experiences that did not go well. And that would make me angry.

And I knew I had evidence and I knew that I could do something about it. I just didn't know where to go and who to trust. So the message is the tide has changed. And I encourage people with or without evidence to join the fight and bring it out. And, you know, like I mentioned to you guys, my good friend Scott Guerin, He is a legendary Air Force special operator. He is the real deal.

You know, he was on the first helicopter going into Iraq, running around with Navy SEAL Team 6, doing all the stuff back into the 80s. And he captured some of the most phenomenal UFO video and photographs I have ever seen. He's published two books with the photos. He is beyond credible. I mean, he is a legend. And nobody gives a damn about his story.

And he's been trying to get this out for years on his own. So now, you know, I'm helping him. He's helping me. We're helping a bunch of other vets that have been trying to, like, muddle through this on their own for years or decades. So I want people to know that there is help. You know, there's people like you and George they can contact. There's Ryan Graves and his team.

There's people like me and Scott Guerin that can help you. You don't have to go public. Some people just need to get it off their chest, man. So that's my message. Like, if you've had an experience and you want to talk about it, please do. Because there's strength in numbers. And the government's playing the same old games. We had these drones flying 200 feet over our house in New Jersey.

All of our neighbors know about it. They know they're not drones. And the government continues.

I don't know. But if it is, they need to stop and they need to share it. Because that's beyond next generation technology. That is world-changing, history-changing technology. And if they've got that, it's time to stop with the military application of it. and let civilian scientists in the public know what, whatever it is they've developed.

But I, it could be, but the thing I saw, it never entered my mind that that might be human technology. Never. Now, some of the other things I'm totally open to that. Like I've heard lots of credible people that have told me that they, that we do have technology like that. And so it could be, but if the government is flying that type of technology, 200 feet over my children,

They need to they need to quit. You know, I don't know why they think that's OK.

It's so dangerous. It's unbelievable. None of my friends fired on it. But we're trained to do that. You don't allow an unknown helicopter to come over a restricted area. We will shoot it down. Back in the day when I was in, my friends were Stinger missile qualified. We had Stinger missiles, man. So it's dangerous.

If the government is doing this, if they're flying over Langley and Lake and Heath and Vandenberg and the ranges and they're almost hitting F-18s off the coast of San Diego and They need to quit. Like, what are they doing? They're going to get somebody killed.

Because, fine, what if something goes wrong and it crashes into a nuclear facility, onto a flight line, into a church? So when we do, and like Dave Fravor said, we have ranges for that. They own Nevada, do it there. And the other thing, and I conducted exercises on my people to prepare them and train, and people would do that to me. We would initiate the exercise online.

Be advised, an alarm has been triggered on the fence line of this restricted area. We would immediately initiate the exercise because I'm out there shaking the fence. I don't want my guys to shoot me and kill me because they don't know. So this whole narrative is nonsense. And if that is true, somebody needs to be held accountable because it's outrageous. It's dangerous.

And and I mean, they're freaking everybody out. Some of my neighbors here in Jersey were freaked out like they were like affected. Because I said, like, over the neighborhood, these things were flying 200, 300 feet or hovering over our homes. And they were making absolutely no noise. And they're flashing these weird. And they have kids. And they're like, what is going on?

Yeah, could be. And eventually that will happen. Eventually that if that's what's going on, somebody is going to take a pop shot.

Back then, you know, cell phones were not what they are. We have flip phones. And so and when we worked in restricted areas, like we're not allowed to like video anything like that. The base had incredible capabilities in multiple domains.

So I am quite certain that the Air Force and there were other agencies operating on Vandenberg with capabilities that I'm aware of that I saw like on operations like. they can see whatever they want to almost anywhere. So I am sure they have data, video, and all kinds of different kinds of imaging. I have no confidence that we will ever see that.

You know, I've been cautiously optimistic for the last few years. I'm losing confidence in Congress. If they can't even get a briefing, if they can't even get David Grush into a skiff, if they can't get the intelligence community or the DOD to answer simple questions, we're in big trouble, man.

I mean, this played out not to get political, but like when I was watching the FBI and the Secret Service testify after the Trump assassination attempt. Those agency heads were telling Congress, like, we don't have to tell you nothing. And I didn't even bother preparing for this hearing. So Congress needs to grow some teeth.

And thank you, guys. It was a pleasure meeting you both in person, man. You guys are like heroes of mine. and uh i appreciate everything you're doing and out to all the other podcasters the way i see it you guys are the front line troops in this fight for history so let's get after it it's go go ufo man let's go

What up, Jeff? How you doing, man? I'm doing great, man. I'm very happy to be here. Hi, George. How are you doing?

Yeah, I did 16 years on active duty as a military police officer. That was my specialty. At Vandenberg, I was heavily involved in law enforcement. I was the installation hostage and crisis negotiator. So I had a pretty active career. So, yeah. Is there some family history with the topic? Actually, yeah. My grandparents on my mother's side, my grandfather was a World War II combat vet.

He was in the Battle of Sicily and all the major conflicts leading up to the end of World War II, so very familiar with aircraft. I have his war diary, and he documents radio-controlled bombs and brand-new technology of the day. Him and my grandmother were at Lake Erie and they witnessed the it's called the Presque Isle UFO landing. And that was a major case. Project Blue Book documented it.

The Air Force investigated. It was in all the national papers and they saw the craft land. They were out fishing there. And so that's all they really saw. But it turned into a very big event, multiple witnesses, police officers and on and on.

Right, right.

I got there in 1999. I left Vandenberg in 2006. So about seven years.

Absolutely. Most of them are not public yet.

Yeah, so it all started, you know, over the years I had sort of my own X-File. What I would do when these events would happen, I would go up to our command center and I would print out the paperwork and I kept all of that. So I had this X-File full of these strange events. And over the years, I just didn't know what to do with it.

I thought about contacting journalists and things, but I didn't want to put it out to the news and then them do the X-Files music and just be a blip. I wanted to do something important with it. So eventually I found Ryan Graves in the Merge podcast. And I thought, well, here's the guy. This is the guy. He's an experiencer himself. He's credible. So I reached out to Ryan.

Him and his colleague, Brad Crispin, got right back to me. We talked. I sent him my 214 and some other performance reports to show I was at Vandenberg and my rule there. And then things happened very quickly. He put me into contact with some lawmakers, Congress senators, and their staffers. And I ended up doing like a mass briefing. And I told them about the event.

I shared the details of the case. I let them know that I had actual documentation, Air Force official records of the event. And that really started things rolling.

2003 vanderberg air force base i mean just paint a picture for us tell us you know take us through the event this was mentioned in congress and this is something you've provided evidence and proof for because of your own work tell us what happened so yeah it started out normal day uh i was uh the senior patrolman on bravo flight uh flights are like platoons in the army we have flights so we usually have 60 to 80 or more people on each flight

I was in a leadership position as the senior law enforcement sergeant. I came into work about an hour early to do changeover with the off-going leadership. That was Delta Flight. So when I pulled into work, I noticed there was a crowd of people around the smoke pit. And when I pulled up, they all started to point at me and they're like, oh, there's Jeff.

And I could tell they had something cool to tell me, which was not unusual. We were pretty active base. We had wild things that would happen from time to time. So I walked over and all at once, they all start to tell me that at 0845 that morning, we had a real world UFO event at Launch Facility 21. on the North end of the base.

And at first, you know, I'm like, are you guys pulling a prank or doing whatever? But very quickly I realized that this was real. So I walked over to the command center and met with the offgoing leadership, their flight chief and their senior patrolman, my counterpart. And they gave me a briefing and they had actually responded to the event. So I got, you know, direct from the horse's mouth.

And basically what happened was, Three Boeing contractors were working on a national missile defense site. This was a new initiative under the Bush administration to put in together like a Star Wars program to protect us from ballistic missiles. And these contractors were working on site.

One of them walked outside and noticed there was this gigantic red glowing square shaped object hovering at low altitude over the launch pad. And this guy just is like, you know, oh, my God, what is going on? He watches it for a few minutes. He goes in, picks up the landline, and calls two of his coworkers.

They all come out, observe this thing for some period of time, and then they do what they're supposed to do. They picked up the phone. They called range control, which is like a command center that oversees all the various launch facilities. They reported it. They described the object. And then the controller at range control called around to the various other agencies on base.

They called the weather station. They called the tower of the flight line and everybody else to find out if we had anything in the air. And the results were negative. We had no aircraft. We had no weather balloons. There was nothing on radar. So this was they had no idea what this object was.

And at some point during that time frame, the object just slowly floated further onto the installation and they lost visual as it went over some hills. So it came onto the base. Absolutely no noise, no signs of propulsion. So this was like completely anomalous.

So after making those notifications, the controller notified the law enforcement desk and asked us if we knew anything about the object and requested that we respond and we send an armed patrol out. So that initiated my friends getting involved. And they drove out to the site. It's probably a 15 or 20 minute drive from our command center to that location. It's out located right on the coast.

My friends didn't see anything on the way out. They met with the contractors. They got the whole story. And they took sworn written statements from each of the three contractors describing what they saw. They returned back. They typed up a report. They put it in the blotter, which is a chronological record of everything that happens on the basis of police record.

And they made notifications through our chain of command. So they notified our commander, our operations officer, and on and on, including the wing command post. And it was up-channeled all the way to the top, as far as I know. And as they were telling me the story, I was copying all the paperwork, you know. And that's pretty much what happened that afternoon.

As far as I know, according to the documentation I have, there was nothing on radar. And I have that data is captured in the blotter and also in the witness statement I have. I have the witness statement From the individual that worked at range control that received the complaint and made all the notifications. So I have his written statement. So no radar tracks, no idea what it was.

And the object was at least 100 yards wide or whatever. Yeah.

It did. I mean, people were some people were were shocked. Some people were in disbelief. Other people were like me where I was. I was excited beyond like I couldn't believe it was really happening.

Yeah, I'm sure they did. I mean, these guys are probably engineers or something. With top secret clearances, they're working on the National Missile Defense Project at that time was the executive branch's top priority for the military. And we were doing launches from Vandenberg that I was involved in, like guarding the launches that were deemed the most important space launches in 25 years.

So this was taken extremely seriously. Yeah.