Jeff Schoep

Right.

And not that socialism, not left-wing.

Yeah.

And back then, the group was pretty small.

But the reason that I picked that organization-

I mean, it was only in a handful of states at the time I joined.

It was pretty small.

The National Socialist Movement was a continuation of the movement of George Lincoln Rockwell, who was the original founder of the American Nazi Party.

So that's why I wanted to join that particular organization, because it had that history, because I was a fan of history.

I always wanted to be as close to the German movement as possible.

Um, so that was, that was the group that I sought out.

And then there, there is like a vetting process, you know, they want to know you sign up an application.

And, um, later on in, in the group, um, I was doing things like having people sign nondisclosure agreements and, um, doing background checks on people and things of that nature.

I would have thought, yeah.

God, that's nuts.

And you notice in that video, Joe, they also have George Washington up there.

Yes.

They've Americanized neo-Nazism.

Basically, it was German activists, and they were allied with Hitler's National Socialism.

So was it anti-Semitic?