Jeff Schoep

And what it did to my mother's career is, as I mentioned, she was a lawyer.

She wanted to be a judge.

So she had ran to be a judge.

She was elected to be a judge.

And in the state of Minnesota, there's at the time, anyways, this was back in the 90s, and there was a formality.

And this is the way my mother explained to me at the time.

She says, the governor called me and she said, Mrs. Scoop, your son's a leader in the Nazi party.

Your father fought in the German army during the war.

I do not feel you are fit to be a judge in this state.

So that was just devastating.

I carry that guilt and shame to this day for doing that.

But at the time, I was like, okay, the system is after my family.

That's how I felt.

And it just made me double down and become more radical.

Did you have a job at the time?

Yeah.

What did you do for a job?

I was doing all kinds of jobs, working in factories and Pizza Hut and just anywhere I could.

Well, my main focus was on music until all that happened.

And then it became the movement, yeah.