Jeff Seibert

So I've been riding it the whole time.

Today, I agree with you.

Back when Aaron started Box, it was a completely different world.

It was very hard to convince these companies to adopt, quote, cloud, quote, SaaS, right?

They were at the forefront at a lot of this.

And so I think he took the path he had to to build the business.

But today, you're right.

I think it's a different world.

And if you have the opportunity to bootstrap a business, I think you're in great shape.

Yeah, right out of college.

Basically, senior year, my co-founder and I just failed to apply to jobs.

And so we started working on our own stuff.

Got very lucky to raise a small seed round, half million dollar seed round, terrible terms, honestly, looking at it from today's point of view.

But it was enough to get started.

And we hired a couple engineers and built a product.

Yeah, no, I stayed two years.

They made me an engineering manager and sent me to Boston to launch their R&D office on the East Coast.

And that was a fascinating experience.

Sort of first time in a management role at a bigger company, had great time building out a team out in Boston.

And that's where actually the idea for Crashlytics came from.