Jeff Smith
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first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
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Well, I think India's arsenal is a little bit bigger, but I think Pakistan has enough that they are survivable from a first attack and capable of doing catastrophic damage to India. And so after you hit a certain threshold, it's really not about who's got bigger. It's just, can we wipe each other off the map? And for now, it seems the answer is yes.
The other wrinkle, of course, with Pakistan is that not only do you have this sort of messianic religious leadership, but you also have, you know, what I call a Disneyland of terrorist groups operating in that country. You know, many of them with the support of the Pakistani state, but also many now that don't have the support of the Pakistani state and are targeting Pakistan.
You know, that's the irony is that...
Pakistan is both the biggest supporter of terrorism worldwide, if not number one, certainly two or three up there with Iran, but it's also one of the biggest victims of terrorism, and it's just partly because they've got so many terrorist groups in this playground, as some of them are actually targeting the Pakistani state, and probably wouldn't mind getting their hands on some of these nukes.
Now, it's easier said than done, but it does still add an additional layer of So, who at this stage
Yeah, probably China at this point, with the US being a close second. Not because we give Pakistan much aid anymore. In fact, we cut almost all of it off during the Trump administration. Well, the first Trump administration.
But we are still able to exert a lot of leverage over any country, just with the power of our market and our influence in international institutions, our ability to sanction Pakistan. So we do still have some leverage over that country. They certainly don't want to make the US an open antagonist, but they're also not really taking cues from us on how to respond to this.
Our relationship with Pakistan right now is not good in general. China ist aber sehr sensibel zu seiner Meinung. Sie wissen, dass China ihr letzter großer Vorteil ist, der ihnen immer noch viel Geld und Investitionen geben wird. Und wenn China auf sie lehnen würde, dann würde das schon lange dauern. Das Problem ist natürlich, dass China auch ein Rival von Indien ist.
Und zu irgendeinem Niveau denke ich, dass die Chinesen den Fakt, dass Indien sich ständig in dieser regionalen Rivalität mit Pakistan befindet, nicht mehr in Ordnung ist. Viele Inder denken, dass das eigentlich Teil der China-Strategie ist.
That's a good question. But I think it's important to note what they did. They essentially said we're suspending the terms of the agreement of the treaty for now. And so the headline came out that India cut off all water to Pakistan. And that would be pretty dramatic. That's not exactly what happened.
And in fact, the Indian government doesn't even have dams on the river that could shut off the water to Pakistan. But they do have this important water sharing agreement that dictates who controls what rivers, who can build what kind of dams on what rivers. And it's fairly complex in governing the flow of water from the Himalayas through India into Pakistan.
And so what the Indian government was essentially saying is, all the terms of that agreement now are suspended and we're no longer committed to the terms of that agreement. But it doesn't mean that they immediately cut off all the water supply to Pakistan. Now, at some point in the future, they may have dams capable of doing something like that, but that's not the case today.
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