Jeff Thornburg

You would be surprised, Chuck, how many kids in school equated Thorn Birds with Thornburg.

Yeah, well, everybody has a side hustle.

I've been around.

My best answer to that, Neil, is I grew up like I think you and others did and aspired for this science fiction world that we all would like to see.

And I would go work at these places and be like, not moving fast enough, not moving fast enough, not moving fast enough.

I have a very loving wife who has been very patient with my work.

30-year career as well.

Yeah, I need one of those.

Portal is building the most rapidly maneuverable spacecraft that's ever been built.

And that's important because we're doing it with a lot of payload flexibility.

So what that means is we can accomplish a lot of missions for defense and commercial customers.

We can do it with speed.

The problem with movement on space is you can't get anywhere very fast right now, especially with satellites and defense systems.

I got frustrated and I said, this is a solvable engineering problem.

Why aren't we doing more about it?

Okay, if no one's going to do anything about it, I'm going to go do something about it.

They do.

And they love developing new types of spacecraft.

No, I want to do, no, absolutely not.

Okay.