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Jeff Tiegs

πŸ‘€ Speaker
612 total appearances

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Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

So if we were going to work in any city, the first thing we do is we look at the current ads that are happening in that city.

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

And then we look for indicators of trafficking, not just prostitution.

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

So again, I say we're a counter sex trafficking organization.

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

We're not counter prostitution.

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

I'm against prostitution, but it's such a vast problem.

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

We're looking for the worst of the worst, right?

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

So if a girl is for sale online, there are certain indicators, emojis, the way the photos are taken,

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

different indicators in the ad, very, very simple things where you start running the phone number, you start running the email address because this has to be a contact, right?

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

This isn't anonymous.

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

This is an exchange.

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

So there's always a start point.

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

Now, sometimes that start point is a phone number that's a voice over IP and it's very hard to get around.

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

But as we're looking at these indicators, so the first thing we'll do is look at an escort site and we will bin

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

looks like indicators of trafficking indicators of trafficking so let's say we look at 300 cases in the city 300 ads in the city maybe only 50 of them will have indicators of trafficking right so those are the 50 that we focus on it's kind of like triage even as i tell you this it's sad to me because it's kind of like triage on the battlefield those other 250 women

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

We're leaving them laying on the battlefield bleeding.

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

But those 50 that we have, we have evidence that can lead to probable cause that a cop can now take action.

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

So that's how we immediately do it.

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

Are there evidence of trafficking?

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

And then the real magic to what we do is open source intelligence.

Mick Unplugged
Protect & Serve: From Counterterrorism to Anti-Trafficking with Jeff Tiegs

So start with that ad, which is public.