Jeff Tiegs

But he was very kind and he was very open.

And we were all talking about our ideas on books.

And Tim said, he said, hey, man, I'm going to discount your book right out of hand because it's just not my thing.

I'm not a Bible guy.

I don't care about any of this.

He said, but you know what interests me is you.

I'm sitting across this table and I'm talking to you.

And I'd be interested to hear how what you're talking about, you've applied to your life.

So this pivot in the book, I owe to an atheist who explained to me very clearly, I want to hear truth.

You I want to hear where you're not just talking the talk, but where you've applied these things to your life.

So the the book that you that we have now really became a new version of these biblical stories.

The more of the story of that biblical story, which I think is fascinating in of itself.

And then almost a memoir testimony of how how I apply those things through different hardships in my life.

And then it continued to evolve, and it became almost cathartic to be able to share some of these things.

And it's a tough line because, deservedly so, much of what we do in special ops, especially in Delta Force, it's not meant to be shared.

So it's this fine line between sharing enough of the intent and the meaning behind the story with the detail that keeps it interesting.

So it became this...

what it is today.

And that, and, and once I really recognized that I was writing this book to my two sons, you know, the, the avatar was my two sons, Aaron and Jonah, you know, they were both in their early twenties at the time.

believers, lovers of God, lovers of Jesus, but a little bit bored.