Jeff Wallace

I just overheard different conversations, varying opinions about it.

And then what happened?

I didn't know, you know, who was telling the truth, what was right, what was wrong.

I just listened.

And it was apparent that if some of that stuff was true, then it was concerning.

Well, if that information was not disclosed, then the process was flawed.

And if the process was flawed, then the end result is not truly the end result.

Because to get to that end result, the process has to be fair.

I observed something that triggered in my mind the need to report this to the defense.

I don't know if you know about that or not.

What did you observe?

And as I left the Bailey station, which of course is in the front of the courtroom, I'm walking out and happened to notice in the spectator's area on the front row, the defendant's wife being consoled by our chief witness in the Johnson case.

Ms.

Ellison, that's right.

In my mind, that conduct was inconsistent with the picture that I had of Ms.

Ellison at the time of trial.

She seemed to me to be only a mother trying to do the best thing for her daughter and happened to overhear a telephone conversation.

And the notes that she made of that telephone conversation became important in the trial of Mr. Johnson, as you know.

So her credibility as the citizen she was, I think was important because she was the case.

She is the case.