Jeff Wallace

But I didn't realize that that wasn't normal until we get into grade school.

And I see children with their two parents home.

And so now I'm like, OK, this is something that's not adding up, something that's not right.

So help me understand what's happening.

And then it's like, OK, well, he's away, but he's innocent.

So what does innocent mean?

I'm a kid.

I don't understand what that means.

He's there for something that he didn't do.

OK, well, why can't he just come home then?

And so then I begin to get frustrated with him because I'm like, OK, well, if you didn't do it, then you could just come home.

But clearly it doesn't work that way.

I just remember always riding.

And I was so young, and I was like, oh, my, this is the longest car ride.

So what I remember is quarters.

Grandma used to have a sack full of quarters in the Ziploc bag.

So, look at, thinking back on it, Muffin, I didn't really think about this until now, just kind of how violating...

it kind of was with them, because they had to search us, like, the same way.

Very violent.

I was like, I didn't even want to go back.