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Jeff Walton

👤 Speaker
893 total appearances

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Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

We just announced that last week.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

Okay.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

So again, you think about like the risk profile of a full equity capital structure.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

What is the, like, I can't default.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

Right.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

I have no event of default.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

I have zero debt.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

Saylor and Strategy has debt because they issue convertible notes.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

They've got $8 billion of convertible debt that they're in the process of trying to retire, right?

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

We retired hours that was a function of the similar business that we acquired and that is now fully retired.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

We have a full equity structure.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

Strategy has $8 billion of convertible debt.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

But the debt on strategy's balance sheet, that helped them scale the business.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

So they're in the process of retiring that debt.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

But that does change the risk profile, right?

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

Like they do have a default probability that is greater than zero.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

And we don't because we have zero debt.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

So...

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

that mathematical risk profile does come into consideration.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

That being said, like, the risk profile is so small.