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Jeff Walton

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893 total appearances

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Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

So as that underlying Bitcoin goes on to the balance sheet, the equity has more potency, I would say.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

You can think of it that way.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

It's like more potent.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

And when it's more potent, that means there are more people that are buying calls.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

There are more people that are buying puts.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

The equity itself is moving and the volume of the equity is rising.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

We've seen it over time.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

You can go look at the data.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

As our Bitcoin balance sheet has grown, our average volume on the underlying equity has also grown.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

So we're seeing more dollars traded because it's a more interesting instrument.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

And it's a pure expression of, you know, this amplified Bitcoin exposure.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

So the market, and we've been told by the market that the market is using these equity instruments like MSTR and like our common stock to hedge Bitcoin exposure.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

So there's multiple reasons people are buying and selling the common stock.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

That creates volume, that creates dislocation, that creates opportunity for us to raise additional capital or hold off.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

And so by having two of these instruments, we're kind of constantly monitoring the underlying balance sheet, how the equity is moving, how the digital credit is moving, and ultimately, again,

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

We need the health of both of these instruments to continue into perpetuity.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

So we are constantly monitoring all of them every single day.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

And it's paramount in how this structure operates.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

We have the ability to issue new shares into the market.

Bankless
Bitcoin’s $300T Credit Market Opportunity | Jeff Walton

So we've got an ATM at the market equity offering on both of the instruments, right?