Jefferson Fisher

I was actually intimidated before I even met her.

All of her team showed up.

And let me tell you what, she has a very firm control

over what exactly she's doing in business.

And so this was my very first interaction with her, so we get to have fun with that.

Also, she has a book coming out called Start With Yourself, A New Vision for Work and Life, which is out today.

The link's down there in the show notes.

We also took a deep dive on being direct.

What does it mean, how to do it without apology and with confidence?

We talked family, we talked career, we talked business, and we also talked about that other B word, balance, if there even is such a thing.

I hope you enjoy.

I have to tell you, when I was on your podcast, was that a few months ago?

Almost a year ago?

Well, I get up there and I...

you know i don't wear skims i don't wear i don't you know the jeans so i get up there and this is i think it was it might have been at skims like one of the places um

Obviously, I need to update on the brand names.

Yeah, I need to upgrade my shapewear.

Hey, the new collab.

Okay, so anyway, I get up there, get off the elevator.

And everybody was just buzzing.