Jefferson Fisher

We're doing it.

Yeah, no, okay, I think that's a great point of ambition seems to be, have certain connotations with it when it comes to men.

Ambition seems to be almost a negative trait when it comes to women.

And I hear you saying, I want to change that.

And I think you're a living example

When I hear you say, okay, to be very direct with somebody has a lot more of not just what I say, it's what they can see me do and see me follow up on.

I wanna know, this is where I'm loving this.

I get to kind of tease out how Emma thinks

So when you're saying, okay, you're walking into the office, you have a room full, you know it's crazy, your schedule's packed.

When you are about to enter into, okay, I have that breath of moment, I just got out of the car, I'm about to go into the room, where is your mind in that place?

How do you balance the performative of I have to look the part and balance the personal of embodying the part?

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