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Only the online version of Luke is acceptable.
So I can't even offer to send you guys out on a date that we would pay for, Claire, because it's normally what I do here.
Oh, okay.
So now we've turned this into a third date update. Would you be willing to give him a third chance at meeting up with him one more time, Claire? Okay. Fourth date update. Just keep asking. Okay. You know what? Forget it. Luke, I'm sorry. She's going to say no. All right.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. man why are the hot ones always so mean and unforgiving seriously bro i don't get it does that mean that we're not the hot ones oh because we're so kind this is how you find out yeah sure did you hear luke admitted his mistakes he apologized for his actions he complimented her tried to reach a compromise and none of that flies with a hot girl you
You're a good wingman, Jeff.
Okay, your guys' inner hot girls are coming out and being like mean for no reason.
Yeah.
Sure. But we want to help your inner personality. Mean, hot, cute, whatever. I have an inner smart guy in there, by the way.
way yeah we all have inner people i've never met him your inner personality deserves to find love and we want to help you email the show we can call that person who's not calling you back and go check out our entire resume of second date updates they're online wherever you get your podcasts apple spotify all the places just look up brooke and jeffrey's second date update
So gross.
Is there any place on Earth more difficult to navigate than the world of dating apps? At least in this day and age.
Maybe it was easier a few years ago, but now there are landmines everywhere.
Thank you to everybody's sacrifice out there. Without what you do, we wouldn't have jobs. But for a guy, if you do come across a person who's attractive and seems mentally stable-ish and she's not a bot, your chances of landing a phone number are .00001. So I want to talk to a real-life hero who beat those odds and actually locked down a date. The Rudy of dating apps. His name is Luke.
Round of applause for Luke. His name's Luke.
That's what you do. Yeah, that's fine. We messed up your intro, Luke.
Luke, you are an inspiration to millions of people listening right now. We are hoisting you up on our shoulders, carrying you all over this room. Just please tell us how you did this. We're holding the phone. Well, I met this girl online. That's what we were talking about for a while.
That's right. Straight to the point. How did you get a date with a girl after meeting her online?
Sorry, sorry. So, by the way, have we learned this girl's name yet? Claire.
Okay.
So you managed to get her to agree to a date with you, which already huge, huge, huge success. So tell us how the actual date went.
Brooke, you don't know.
Okay, ouch.
Although catfish is a good sushi roll that you should try sometime. It really is. That's one of my favorites. What did you guys connect over?
Please tell me you're talking about the cat that you rescued. No, they were just at the table nearby and kind of like. Oh, wait, wait. So now it's they? Now it's multiple people? Yeah, it was two people. What? Oh, God.
excuse myself to the bathroom and one of them would meet me in there and we'd kind of game plan before i'd head back in okay you needed a little just a little backup in case you needed support that's not a bad idea what women do this all the time i just need to know are they on the other line are they like in the back room with us right now
Conversational safety.
Like with me and my friends?
Although you can answer that if you want to. I'm curious. Even they're like, we're not going to see you again. No, it is. You get dumped by three people in one night.
All right. Well, we're going to call Claire and hopefully get some answers, not just for Eric, but for his entire friend group.
So we can all rest easy after we do your second date update right after this. Hold on.
If you're just joining us, we've been talking to RML Riz Master Luke, who locked down a date with a tasty little saucepot named Claire the other night. His words.
That's right. So took her to a restaurant. And for backup, he brought a couple of his buddies along, had them sit at a nearby table just in case he needed some help with conversation topics.
I assumed two guys. Yes. It was two of my buddies. Okay.
Now, the good news is he only needed their help four times throughout the dinner date.
Well, Luke, we never asked you, though. Did your friends who were there that night have any theories on what they think could have gone wrong? No, they said I was killing it.
Those are good supportive friends to just say that to you, even if it might not be 100% true.
Oh, okay. We'll tell her that you have no friends whatsoever.
Exactly. Let's find out. I'm going to dial Claire right now. We'll see if she picks up and hopefully get some answers. Here we go. Hello. Hi. We're looking to speak to somebody named Claire.
Oh, hey. Hey, Claire. Welcome to our radio show. Surprise, you're on the radio. Good morning. We're a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Okay.
Yeah. So I hope you're not too busy doing something right now, but we'd really, really like to talk to you. What's this about? This is about a segment we do called the Second Date Update. Do you know about that? Have you heard about Second Date Updates?
That's probably it. That may be one of the knockoffs. I know.
Oh, God. I love those ones. Those are so good. Those are my favorite, man. So much better than ours.
Yeah.
Okay, so Claire, maybe you're a little bit familiar with it, but basically it's where we try to help out our listeners figure out the reason they're not getting a callback for a second date from someone they really like. Just someone?
Yeah. This particular person is named Luke, who you went on a date with.
Okay.
It is. But still. Wow. This particular Luke went to sushi with you.
Good.
Sounds like it. Or maybe he is calling back.
So what we're trying to tell you is that Luke had a really good time, and he's a little bit confused about why there hasn't been a second date yet.
Well, maybe he just needs a little bit of time to warm up because he was speaking to us about the date and he had a lot of really nice things to say.
I don't know. I don't know.
Some other table was listening in on your conversation.
Claire, you find that behavior to be rude and insulting? It's just kind of loud. It's a weird vibe. I don't know. It just is off. Well, I mean, it's like Brooke was saying. You can't really hold that against Luke just because some other guys are obviously jealous of him and wish that they were on the date instead of him.
The guy came over to your table and said, the person you're on a date with thinks you're cute?
Oh, yes.
Yeah. Doing too much. And he already did hear that, actually, Claire, because he is listening on the other line to this conversation. Yeah.
There's a nice thing he said about you.
That's a new term. I do like that.
I'm calling an XL. It'll be fine.
Bro, this is at least endearing. Come on. She's just trying. It's not working. We get it. She's cute. She's cute.
After hearing everything she tried, I'm surprised it wasn't the first option. I think he had to get away from her, it sounded like.
Oh, nice. That sounds good. It sounds like you're both into it. So how did it end then?
Is there no one else on the trail?
Oh, okay. Okay. Were you able to reach someone?
No, we always say this, but this is another cute story where if things work out for you, it's kind of like, yeah, you sprained his ankle our first date.
Good lighting of the ankle.
Did you call them just strippers? They showed up naked, like firefighters?
Maybe that's where she comes in. Uh-oh, Brooke's going to roast him.
Oh, come on. He's not going to expect that. Yeah. Or drag him down. I don't know.
She can sense that, but that's what she wants to know why.
Well, what are we all wrong? Well, sorry. I'm just kidding.
Obviously, you couldn't walk. You couldn't even hobble, bro. So it was really bad.
An Uber. Hold on. Is she kidding to make you laugh? That's something I would say if someone was hurt.
Well, your feelings are totally valid, but I believe that Paul's feelings are probably also equally as valid, if not more, because they are his private notes. So we should probably hear his side of the story because he is on the other line right now waiting to talk to you.
Paul? Oh, my God. I'm here. What's up?
How are you feeling based on what you just heard there?
Who are you talking to?
It's not like you're shouting it to the world.
Well, clearly Brooke is Paul's biggest Yelp fan, but we should let Paul and Kelly talk to each other about this. Paul, talk to her. Tell her how you feel.
You would leave yourself out in the woods in a hole.
Oh, okay. Maybe Paul can leave a review of the bathroom out in the forest where you went.
We've been doing this show for like 13 years. Brooke has never stood up for a man like she has public bathroom Yelp reviews.
Okay, Kelly, here's the important question. In his apartment, was his bathroom clean?
It seems to be a pretty big issue for her. But Kelly, I'm still going to ask you anyway. Would you give him another shot at a second date and we would pay for it?
Now it's suddenly like the most important thing to Kelly too.
Brooke, your stories always end up in a trailer.
Oh, on this morning show, we don't do toilet humor. We do toilet talk and we take it very, very seriously.
That's our new thing now.
I think it really came down to this. Somehow, a guy posts a bunch of violently aggressive Yelp reviews about public restrooms, and that was a green flag somehow? Yeah.
I am happy to see that those two are going to be going out again, though.
But they do seem like good people with shared interests. So we're happy to facilitate their next date.
We should know where the line is. And I think it's before that. So anyway, if you want to hear more second date updates, the non-rip-off ones, make sure to head over to Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. Type in Brooke and Jeffrey's second date update.
Alexis, when you go out on a date, here's an important question. Do you do phone up or phone face down on the table?
I don't even trust the guy to be near your phone.
Well, I bring it up because some people think phone face down means you're hiding something that you don't want them to see.
Well, phone up would be more like you're kind of an open book or an open phone.
Okay, the whole reason that I bring it up is because one guy's cell is at the center of something that could have possibly gone wrong that night. He's not really sure, so let's welcome Paul to the show. Paul, how you doing, man? I'm okay. How are you guys?
Where is it?
That's refreshing because I'm somebody that's like headphones on, face down, phone face down.
Blindfold on. Like, I don't want to do anything with anybody else.
At the gym. At the gym.
It's very difficult to go from equipment to equipment. But anyway. I'm glad that you... You don't take it off.
I'm going to make an exception for you.
That's extremely trusting.
I thought it was going to be like all the naked photos that you've taken, but...
You and I have very different concerns when it's looking at your phones.
So you said, hey, take a look at my phone and tell me who texted and what they said?
Like, it was a setup?
Can you tell us, was that set up?
As a married woman, I understand why you would think it's hot. But Alexis, I don't think so.
You will someday.
This is sounding pretty good, I think. Did we miss any details?
We're just all very eager to hear what she has to say. When we come back and call her, hopefully she picks up and gives us some answers for your second date update right after this.
Is it possible to be so open and so trusting that it's actually a turnoff?
I mean, that's what we're wondering after talking to our listener, Paul, because he gave his date the password to his cell phone so that she could text a friend for him while he was busy doing dishes in the other room.
Yeah, and he felt comfortable doing that because he says he's got nothing to hide on there. She can go look through whatever she wants and won't find anything weird.
Paul, is there anything that you're not telling us? Do you have a furry app on there that you left open?
That was what Alexis said. It's like too nice where it's like, ah, this guy's not even fun anymore.
Are we giving you a little bit of a complex yet, Paul? Maybe, yeah, I don't know. Good. I'm getting one. Okay. Now, hopefully we can find more of your issues when we call Kelly for you and see what she has to say. Hopefully she picks up. Here we go.
hello hey is this kelly this is hey kelly you're on the radio right now with a show called brooke and jeffrey in the morning hey kelly good morning kelly wow hey you know who we are you've listened to the show
yeah i mean um for sure i'm just that means like once on tiktok yeah that's fine yeah we'll take it but hey we'll take it we appreciate it yeah maybe you're familiar with us because of our segment the second date update is that how you know us Yeah, I've definitely heard of that.
Your algorithm's all messed up, then. But, Kelly, we're doing a second aid update right now because of a guy that you went out with recently who's been trying to get a hold of you. Paul from the gym.
Constantly, every morning in the mirror. Pretty much. Yeah, I'm just, like, trying to hurt myself.
What did you do? Because we heard that you two did a gym workout, then had dinner back at Paul's place.
Brooke is really excited about that.
And he even asked you to send a message to his friend for him, which I was worried maybe came across as him being lazy, asking you to do all the work for him.
I mean, he did give you the passcode to his phone.
Still, this isn't a bad thing, Lisa. This is a guy who has a very good relationship with his mom and dad. Uh, no. Well, I'm sorry. Okay, tell me this. Did you or did you not clap after his performance? His parents clapped louder.
He's got a fun, youthful spirit to him that can't be broken.
I don't know that Macklemore song, so maybe he should look it up.
Bottom line, Lisa, we all agree Luke's a good guy. His tactics are a little unconventional, but that's just what makes him so unique and special.
And clearly his parents would approve of going out with you again. We all approve of it. It's just up to you. We would pay for another date if you say yes.
I'm sure that there's another lady who appreciates Macklemore and your musical talents, and you'll meet her soon, okay?
There's so many.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Oh, I really feel like that lady doesn't deserve him.
No. He was, I'm sorry, Luke was a good guy who puts effort into his dates, wants ladies to get to know the real him.
That's who he is. Don't hate on him for his truth.
I don't care how long I have to wait by the text board for a woman to text in that actually is willing to appreciate him. But how hard can this be? He checks all of the boxes. He's close with his parents. He does napkin art. He used to be in a band.
He likes rap music by white guys.
Somebody out there has to.
Something rap adjacent.
Come on, ladies. Go out with Luke. Give him a chance to show him the real you.
He'll show you something.
Anyway, we do want to help. If you have somebody who's not calling you back, email the show. We can call them for you and get you a second date update. Go check out all of ours wherever you get your podcasts at Brooke and Jeffrey.
I feel good that we're like an adoptive home for lonely single men and women until they eventually find their permanent homes and leave the nest.
And the loveless stray that we're bringing in today, his name is Luke. Again, for a second time, because Luke has actually been on the show before.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why we're the safe place.
Last time Luke was on, he was irritating a young woman by posting a photo of them together onto his Instagram, but didn't ask her permission to post it first.
Exactly. So, like I said, lessons have been learned. Luke, do you know better now? Pictures are a no-no. Only post videos of them without permission.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, it's good because apparently there's a new woman, a better woman that we're trying to track down for you. Tell us about her. So her name is Lisa. I met her on Tinder.
They want to know, like, what's your job? What do you do for a living? You're trying to not keep it so surface. You're diving a little bit deeper early on into the date.
Yeah. So how did you accomplish that with Lisa?
You don't just tell them straight out that I was in a band?
Wow, you're so skilled. Were you in a band?
How do you drop a hint? What's your tactic?
Oh, yeah.
This is a night-long game of charades.
But it's the essence of who he is from his youth. Don't listen to them, Luke. What happened next?
Okay. Did you end with a hug, a kiss, anything like that? A hug.
She did not. That's why I'm curious.
Okay. Have you hit her up at all? I think we all are. Yeah, we are. Luke, you've been on with us before. You know how this works. We're going to call her and ask why she doesn't appreciate a brave, courageous man who's willing to just be himself and give her a live musical performance during dinner.
I do have a thought about what music to bump in with when we come back. I don't want to spoil which one it's going to be, though. Nobody guess.
Okay. We're going to come back and do it with your second date update right after we pop some tags.
I pulled Thrift Shop, the knockoff karaoke version off the internet for this because I picture this is what Luke sang to his date Lisa while she ate dinner at his place.
Well, I think that's reserved for his romantic serenades. Got it. I don't want to confuse that. That all really happened. But Luke, we never asked you, did you dance for her while you sang?
I said like from left to right, side to side. Wow.
Now the whole point of doing all of this, this fun mystery creative date that you set up was to let Lisa know that you used to be in a band so that she could get to know the real you. You forgot to actually tell her that. We didn't forget.
And that never came up. So my question now is, if we do get Lisa on the line, do you want us to tell her that information or should we save it for you? No, I think I still want to tell her. I think that was the whole point.
Well, don't they?
I mean, Alexis, a guy who's formerly in a band, come on.
Okay, well, if Lisa says no, then Alexis is on deck. But let's call Lisa first. Here we go.
Hey, is this Lisa?
Hey, Lisa. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Sorry to interrupt your day. OK. What's this about?
Yeah, we it's about a thing that we do called a second date update. Uh-huh. And we also play music.
We take requests if you have any. Like to do a shout-out on the radio right now?
Oh, OK.
That's fine. But back to the second date update thing that we do. Not sure if you're familiar, but you went out with one of our listeners recently, a friend of the show, actually, one of our more talented friends named Luke. OK.
about the date it was i mean full of surprises lots of surprises lots of fun there was drinks you went back to his place he had dinner ready for you and then even performed a song live which we all thought most guys would never go through with all of that for just a first date we were pretty impressed we're wondering so he didn't tell you anything else
Right. But you did go back with him and got in his car because I think you probably got the same vibe that we got speaking to him that he's a good dude. And he sounds like he went through a lot of trouble to make this date really fun and different.
That must be nice.
His parents were there.
No way! At his place?
Wow.
Okay. Well, personally, I would have felt more safe having his parents there. They're like the chaperones of your day to make sure everything goes well.
Yeah.
Someone's got to drive you back.
Well, look, I get it. For some people, I understand parents on a date, that's a red flag. For others, it's not. Well, some people, it's not a big deal. And that might be where Luke stands. And we should probably ask him about it because he is on the other line right now waiting to talk to you, Lisa.
Luke, you there?
Okay. Well, the good news is it sounds like if you guys ever got married, he definitely wouldn't be the type of person to try and hide money from you or keep secrets until they came up years later. Yeah. Calm down with American stuff.
Well, so instead of asking him, first I'm going to ask Cassie, would you like to see Derek again, despite what you've heard here on this show today?
And you'll have to come up with a new name for that plant if Derek says yes to the second date, because we will pay for it, Derek. It's up to you.
Gertrude 2.
Okay. The plant murderer's daughter is a good place to start.
Three-part series coming soon to Amazon. Get your orders in now. By the way, by the way, how's Leif Erikson doing?
Oh, if I said driving.
That's the murder mystery. Leaf killed Gertrude.
And collected the insurance money for himself.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I think we were all kind of leaning heavy into the drama of what happened there when Derek's plant fell off the car.
I know. We were being dramatic. The good news is that clearer heads did prevail in the end. Yeah. And Cassie was, I don't want to say like able to get over Gertrude because we never will. Right. She's always going to be in our hearts and in our compost bins.
But to Gertrude, we just want to say you were a bright light in this world and in all of our lives and in the lives of all of our listeners taken from us far too soon.
Yeah, but now I'm getting back into it. Okay. Because I know, Gertrude, you are smiling down at us from plant heaven right now, watching over all of us and blessing our show with your good green vibes.
Yeah, well.
Never forget.
Gertrude, we love you, okay? Do well up there. And text in 78592. Email the show. If you need help for a second date update, we'll call that person who's not calling you back.
We are in the month of love right now. That's kind of fun. And because of that, today we're going to do this entire second date update in the language of love, French.
Jose, take it away.
Jose, we're trying not to scare all of the women off from listening to this show. Just a couple of the unwanted ones.
Maybe we just stick to American-style English for this when we talk to our listener, Cassie, today. Cassie, I'm sorry. Are you okay if we do this in English? Cassie!
Seriously, you keep talking like that, you're not going to be single for long. Tell us about this guy that you went out with recently. What's his name?
You don't have to tell us about upscale malls.
That sounds like it could be fun, something to do, things to look at and talk about.
We just got a brilliant business idea to launch. Sponsored by Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
We got the discount bin over here for the ones that have been in the store for too long. We have the whole business plan ready, but sorry.
So he obviously doesn't trust that you're able to maintain it, which is why he bought you a super easy plant.
So how did you tell him that you didn't like the plant that he bought?
You could be a jerk. I'm just saying that's always on the table. You could slap the plant down out of his hands and be like, try again.
Okay.
Like the explorer?
Is anybody worried here that maybe the plant joke went on a little bit too long?
I'm actually a little bit more concerned about getting your guys's plants back together because I feel like Maybe they had the real love connection. You don't want a separated family Well, you know, but also you don't want like plant parents hooking up with the plant kids. You know what I mean?
You know what? Fine. We're going to call Plant Daddy Derek and see why he isn't arranging another date with you when we do your second date update right after this.
Cassie and Derek have been on one date and already have two kids together.
Plant children that they picked out for each other at a nursery during their date. They even named their plants Gertrude and Leaf Erickson.
Brought their plants to the restaurant together, put them in high chairs with little bibs on. I mean, you can assume. You can assume that they're good parents like that.
Yes, cut them up for them nice and tiny. I mean, pretty normal first date as far as we've heard.
The crazy thing is most of the plant-thusiasm was actually led by Derek, which I didn't expect. So it is weird that he is not initiating another meetup. The thing is we never asked Cassie how many days has it been since that all happened.
Oh, that's four decades in plant years. So you can only imagine how your children must feel.
So you are in communication.
I just need your help in figuring this out. All right, yeah, well, let's call this deadbeat plant dad and figure out what his problem is.
Okay.
I mean, at least we hope so.
I don't like that he's not talking to you, Cassie, so let's call him. We'll see if he picks up, okay?
Ooh, good idea.
All right. Plant therapy maybe, too. Here we go. I'm calling right now. Hello. Hey, is this Derek? Yeah.
Sorry to barge into your day here, but you're on the radio right now with Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Okay.
I don't think most people do. You're in the general population with that one.
Oh, maybe you're an afternoon radio guy. That's fine.
Yeah. It's a segment we do called Second Date Update. I don't like that. All right.
Hey. Okay.
So, yeah, you're right. There is a girl that listens to our show who said she went out with you recently named Cassie.
Kind of, but not kind of? Okay. Well, that's pretty clear.
Well, I hope you don't mind if we dive a little bit deeper into that and ask you why. I just need some more time.
We won't say. None of us here will say anything to her. Yes.
Yeah. Right. Yeah, it seemed kind of like cute and movie-ish.
Okay.
Yeah, Derek, she was supposed to wait, but that's Cassie wanting to talk to you on the other line.
What did you do with Gertrude afterwards?
You mean with the same exact plant?
Yeah. You were going to pass off the new plan as Gertrude and try and trick Cassie into thinking it was the same one.
And then disposed of the body.
He hasn't driven over his own plant child before.
Cassie, can you see what he's saying? Only a good guy would go through all of that effort to hide the evidence of destroying your plant baby together and try and cover it up with a different plant.
Got it. So you'd be paying to have her on your arm, and that's all.
Me too, Brooke. Wait a minute. You want to, like, help her life and, like, financially... I feel like there's a different app you should go on than Hinge.
Is there a certain number we have to reach?
Keep this in private, guys. No, I want to hear. No, we don't got to hear about how much money he's going to pay her.
Okay.
Now that they're in love, Brooke's like, wait a minute.
Forever.
We're like the sugar aunts and uncles.
A little negotiation starter.
We're going to send her money. I wish there was like a middle fee we could get. Yeah, I don't know about that.
That was kind of worse than mine. That is worse.
Okay. That'll lead you to, okay, you're more sneaky over there, Alexis.
Oh, that's pretty blunt.
It really just changes a person. As I see ass, it's very regal. Yeah. He had to take it out before he ate. Oh.
I do.
Anytime you come at the girls or you're like, Brooke's a B-word, you're blocked. Only I can say that.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Okay. Yeah, hopefully. Did you say anything mean? That's what gets people blocked here.
Good question.
That's kind of cute. Random Alexis, you're a dog walker. Would this be a good date?
Oh, good. Then that's a yes.
The way you said it to us, I wouldn't have taken that as a joke. It sounded legit.
She would have to have a lot going on in her pockets to be like, delete vlog. Walk, confirm, swipe left.
At least we can pinpoint the hour and a half time frame.
Oh, did the dogs like each other? Did one bite the other? I don't think he had a dog.
Oh, my apologies. I thought he had a dog, too.
I assumed he had a dog already. The girls had to correct me.
Oh, I feel like that's less like intense than it used to be.
OK, because like some couples have joint accounts eventually and some don't talk about expenses.
Hey, jokester.
We're not getting approved for loans. This love is not real.
Oh, man. Oh, man. Aaron. Aaron, you see how that's kind of weird? What if she's the love of your life and she has a bad credit score?
Yeah, well, here we are.
I feel like texting this is awkward as well.
She's learned sit, stay, but not back down as one of the commands yet.
She takes it very, very seriously.
Is that something that would be appealing to you, Michael, in a relationship? Because if it is, we would offer to pay for another date with Natella. Or actually, maybe I should ask her first. Natella, is that something that you'd be up for?
Natalia, are you a furry? Do you do that?
I'm very well groomed, if you're asking. That's not... That's not close to the question. What? But now I'm afraid to ask you anything else.
Yeah, we will fund this new date if you want to do it. Michael, would you care to bark back your approval to her?
That's just going to make her want to chase after him even more. Hey, Michael, I'm like so turned on right now. Oh, God. Oh, my goodness.
I think we all got to go. So, Mattella, I think it's a no this time.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Man, they say that there's somebody out there for everyone. And this call just makes me wonder, is there really?
Are we sure? Because I'm scared for what guy matches perfectly with that.
Behaving like a dog most of the time. Right.
I just know I've never recoiled more than when she said, I'm well-groomed, if that's what you're asking.
That was not even close to the question that I was asking.
Too much. Just it's calls like these that make me think God is going to do another biblical flood soon and start the human race over from scratch. We're getting to that point. All right.
You know, if you ever want some help with your dating life, with your love situation, email the show. We can call that person who's not calling you back and go check out all of our second dates. They're up on podcast wherever you get yours at Brooke and Jeffrey.
Is it okay to request something on a first date?
Like some girls may want to request you pay for the Uber home. Or guys might request that you split the bill with them. And I know I always request complete and total anonymity. That's why I wear a Lucha Libre mask when I meet them at the gas station. Because I will not be sharing my real identity with you. And you have to be okay with that.
The thing is, everybody has their thing. And our listener, Natella, not Nutella, Natella, says she has a request in her dating profile and isn't sure if maybe it caused a problem with her getting another hangout. So let's welcome to the show, Natella.
Well, yeah, there's a part there that you can put your voice prompt and you can record your answers. Yeah, instead of just like typing it out, they can actually hear what you sound like.
Okay, so you don't like being stabbed in the mouth with somebody's facial hair.
So that was the request that you made of him before your date started, is you cannot have a beard when we meet up.
And he actually did it. He did.
What's his name?
I know women usually don't get the say over a man's entire look and appearance in wardrobe until like a year or two into the relationship.
But the fact that he did that before the date even started, that speaks a lot.
So what else happened on the date?
So I guess a lot of the date was talking about your dating profile then?
Well, he just shaved his beard, so hair length is very top of mind for me.
All the guys are buying up all the shaving equipment, so there's nothing left so that they can go out with Natella here. I'm surprised he's not calling you back because most of our pharmacy-centric dates that we've had before on the show, they always work out.
So how did you and Michael leave it?
Well, let's see what he has to say when we call him. I don't know if he's going to pick up, but if he does, we're going to ask him some very important questions.
I can't do a golden retriever, though, in my Lucha Libre mask, so I have to figure out a different golden retriever move I can pull. Let's figure that out when we come back, and call Michael for your second date update right after this.
It's the question every man is dying to hear at the end of a first date.
So, you want me to give you the golden retriever? And then she rubs her wet nose all over your soft, beardless cheek.
But that's what our listener Natella actually did on her first date with a guy named Michael. It was supposed to be like a playful, humorous thing because in her dating profile, she describes herself as a human golden retriever.
We don't know. The nose rub move could be the reason Michael's been a little avoidant. But, Brooke, you're usually rubbing stuff in the first five minutes of meeting a guy. Does anything else stand out to you?
Maybe he has intimacy issues, and that was too fast. Like, he doesn't kiss until the third date.
And the nose rubbing, it went a little bit quick.
I'm just saying, everybody has different standards when it comes to physical touch and intimacy. So let's call him. We'll see if he answers, and we'll pick his brain a little bit, okay? And I don't mean that sexually, Brooke, so get that out of your mind, okay?
All right, here we go.
Hello? Hey, is this Michael?
Hey, man, my name is Jeff from a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. And the whole show is here.
Yeah, like normal people. But look, Michael, we're doing a segment on our show. It's called The Second Date Update. I don't know if you've ever heard of that before.
Well, if you know who's doing that podcast, let us know so we can do a cease and desist because that's not okay.
Okay, but I'm calling you because one of our listeners said that she went out on a date with you and hasn't had a follow-up since then, and she's kind of bummed about it. Wants to know if there's a reason. I'm talking about Natella.
Yeah, what about it was weird to you? Because when we heard it, it all sounded very, very normal.
Yeah. I mean, she told us that she likes to joke about herself as being like a human version of a golden retriever. Oh, yeah.
What's her tail wagging to behind her? Like, I don't understand. Like, how far did this golden retriever joke go?
See, that was the part that we had heard and we thought it was good.
She's in good health.
She took the golden retriever joke a little bit too far. But I don't think that should take away from the connection that you guys had. Did they have a connection?
She said that she liked him. I can't hear her panting on the other line, so I don't know how much exactly. But she is waiting to talk to you.
No, I forgot to tell you she's listening on the other phone.
Natel, are you there? Hi. Hi. Hi. Coming in pretty normal.
She doesn't have to be embarrassed.
Natella, he was saying that you maybe took the golden retriever stuff a little bit too far for his liking.
Before this blows up any further and you guys arguing about he said, she said, what is the pizza about?
Okay, so this is the second night after you guys hung out the first time and he brought dinner to? He stayed till it was evening the next day. What a romantic.
That's what I'm saying. A meal and entertainment.
Okay, but this was the second night. So what's the rule about the second night? Yeah, the rule is you bring pizza. No. That's a good man.
Oh, somebody's inviting you over, Kyle.
Do you want pepperoni? Do you want cheese? And we are going to provide the gift card for that pizza.
There better be at least a $100 bill lying on the ground. That sounds like a no. I'm sorry, Kyle. But I guess we learned the lesson. Never give a woman a gift on a first date ever.
Finally, we agree on something. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
We're getting too many no's lately, Brooke. Not getting enough yeses and it's starting to make me lose faith in love.
Somebody here isn't doing their job.
Okay, fair. But Brooke, is there any way that maybe next time we get a guy on the phone who spends 48 straight hours at a girl's place in his underwear watching nothing but sports, can you at least try to spin it into a romantic thing? Just try.
I'm just saying you're leaving me on an island doing all the heavy lifting, standing up for our listeners. You're throwing them right under the bus.
Okay, you're still on the pessimistic train. We need you to hop back onto the optimism train and stand up for our listeners, right or wrong.
We'll toss some Advil at you. Email the show if you have a very easy, simple dating life that we could fix without having to stand up for you.
Those ones are kind of fun. Email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Second Date Update. Alexis, how do you feel about a guy bringing you a gift on a first date? Do you like a guy to have a present, or do you require it?
Don't show up empty. Okay, just cash exchange.
Whatever Alexis is into. Let her have it, okay? She knows side business. That's her thing. But I only ask because one of our listeners says he showed up to his first date with a special surprise for his lady. And it wasn't your stereotypical flowers with a box of Plan B.
maybe that should not be it i think the plan b is thoughtful i mean it'll come in handy at some point alexis's mom didn't use it and she came about but you know what where's the romance being prepared is hot okay we're gonna get to the gift specifically in a second but first kyle is the one who emailed us so welcome to the show man hey guys how you doing oh
We do. But first, tell us about this lucky lady that you met. Where did you meet her? So we met online on, you know, one of the apps.
Is that how it was? You're making it seem like weird.
Well, that's what dating is, Brooke.
I want the romance part. Just go watch a 90s movie and get your jollies off there. Brooke wants them to like book carts at the grocery store and then like have a whole dialogue.
Not in the modern dating world. No, they don't.
I apologize. She has no idea how modern dating works. So tell us, how did you and Sarah bond?
I know, the 1880s were a crazy time before electricity. I know.
Although I have heard of guys being like, hey, I have a surprise for you in the trunk of my car. And then the story usually goes a totally different route.
You could have also said, we could either go back and try it out, Netflix and chill, or we can continue our date.
Oh, God, that dinner. She must have been like so excited to go home and try out the new TV. I don't think girls are like that about TVs, but you know. You're such TV nerds. You don't think she was excited? You said she was. I mean, with the Roku, probably. How did it go?
Okay. Well, that's good. You just took the couch on and, you know.
So what's happened since then?
and i don't know i was just getting like a weird vibe from her please tell me you did not ask for the tv back after this all happened because we've definitely had guys on the show who've been hurt and they've asked for like oh well now i want half of my bill back because she doesn't want to see me anymore no no i'm not that petty i was thinking she'd say oh i had a computer but my roommate took it oh
Well, we'll find out when we call her and see if she even picks up and takes a break from watching Murders in the Apartment or whatever. Murders in the Building. I didn't watch it. We'll find out what she's doing.
that should be the sequel but for now we're focused on our second date update when we come back right after this second date update i think all of us have imagined going on to a giant game show one day winning and taking home an awesome prize like a 43-inch smart tv with roku But a girl named Sarah didn't have to do all of that.
She just had to go on one date with our listener, Kyle, who gifted her a brand new flat screen.
It's all because her roommate had taken her last one when she moved out. But after installing it for her and watching it together, she's been acting a little bit weird. Those are Kyle's words, and he doesn't know why.
I don't know what the reasoning is, but we're about to call Sarah here in a second. But, Brooke, what are you thinking? What are your thoughts before we reach out to Sarah?
Too big of a TV is what Brooke's saying. You should have gone with a 30-inch, maybe one that had a VHS player in it or something.
She's like, it wasn't even a 4K. Oh, well. But, Kyle, we're going to try our best to do this for you, okay? All right. I really appreciate it, guys.
Or do you have a backup gift just in case?
Yeah, that's enough.
And if you want to thank us by giving us a TV in return, that's up to you. We're not going to pressure you, but most guests do give us something as a thank you gift.
Not nice ones, or else you would have installed them in your house. But still, whatever it is, it's up to you. Let's call Sarah and see if she picks up. Here we go. Hello? Hey, is this Sarah?
Yes, you may. We're a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Yeah. We're Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I'm Jeff.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. My name is Jeff. That's the fourth time I've said it.
You hopefully can help us because we are doing a segment called A Second Date Update. And trying to get some answers for one of our listeners that you met up with the other night for a hot date. Two hot dates.
Why is your reaction that way? Because, oh my God.
Yeah, it does sound like it. Would you mind sharing a little bit because Kyle is totally confused. He doesn't know why there hasn't been another hangout.
Yeah.
Could you explain a little bit? Because we're totally in the dark.
Just like six or seven times, but yeah.
Not one with Roku.
We're starting with, he's putting the TV up on your wall.
What game? Yeah, he turns on a basketball game.
Oh, no.
No, he did not. Now that is offensive. Maybe you need the full experience of what it's like to watch. He's doing the test run for you.
Well, maybe that's like the insinuation. Like, hey, I got to go. Time to, you know, story off.
Yeah, he said there was a second hangout. That was what he said.
Can I just say something? Okay, so Sarah, you should probably know that that's Kyle. He's been waiting on the other line wanting to talk to you. Oh, my gosh. Well, actually, he's probably in your apartment right now calling from your couch in front of the TV.
Okay, hold on. He's installed your TV up on the wall for you, so let's give him a chance to explain himself.
Wrap it up. All right. That was a lot. I wasn't expecting you to say that much, but April, do you hear what he's saying? He was exhausted from a long trip before.
It was so important for him to meet you that despite how tired he was, he was willing to do this anyway.
Well, I did kiss her, which is better than I thought, so I didn't really screw that up. I mean, 99% of the date was awesome.
She was the one who initiated the kiss.
You did stick around for a very long time with a very tired man. Just imagine how great he's going to be when he's fully rested at 100%.
I bet on the next date he'll even let you change his fantasy baseball lineup for him. No, that is not cool. I don't think she wants that. She doesn't want that. Okay, maybe that's date three material. But we are interested in date number two. April, he's not lying. We really want you to go out with him again, and we'll pay for it if you say yes.
You're like all the women that we have on this show.
Congratulations, you two. You're going out again.
Awesome. Alexis, do you approve of this couple? You ship them?
Yay.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Should I stay? Okay, Sam, that has to be the craziest story in OK Storytime podcast history.
Here's a dilemma you might face in the dating world. Let's say you have a hot date scheduled.
But the day of, you are just out of it. Whether you're sick or you're jet lagged or just depressed because of what happened on Love Island earlier. Whatever it is, you know you're not in the best shape. Do you cancel? You reschedule? Do you ask a friend to sub in that night for you?
There's a lot of things you could do.
but i bring it up because one of our listeners knew he wasn't in peak form for date night and now he needs our help his name is lawrence so lawrence welcome to the show hey thanks for having me yeah all right zero to 100 where are you at right now Oh, I'm like a 20. I don't know, 19.
Wow. Most people don't. Brooke doesn't normally ask people to rate themselves on attractiveness on a scale of 1 to 100. It wasn't attractiveness. You know, Brooke wants to know.
Oh, okay.
All right, enough with the rating scales. Tell us, you said in your email that you knew you weren't in the best form the night of your day. Why did you say that?
But at the same time, if you feel like this is my one chance to actually go out with this really cool person, you're not going to skip or pass on it. You're going to do whatever it takes. So I get why you would go out with her. But the Vegas thing from the night before, you were sleep deprived. That's what you were trying to tell us. On top of all over.
Hey, dude, you know, I just had one too, so I don't blame him at all, guys.
Okay. Wouldn't that suck?
Exactly.
Yeah. So tell us, how was the vibe between you and April?
Yeah, my mouth does stuff that my brain never agrees to all the time, so I see where you're coming from. I know, but, you know, it's life.
So now you're going out for another drink, even though you don't really feel up for it?
Lots of glitter at those top golf places. It gets on your neck and on your clothes. Yeah.
Yeah, let's do that for you. We're going to reach out to April. You get about three minutes to take a quick nap, so you're at 100% when we come back.
Yeah, we'll all do it. And then full energy for our second date update when we continue right after this. Hold on.
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Second date update was built for a mattress store sponsor. But if you missed it, our listener Lawrence was dead tired going into his date night with April after his bachelor party experience. But he powered through and the hangout at the bowling alley and the bourbon bar was fun. at least the parts that he can remember from that. But we're going to try and step up and save it for him.
It's a second date update, not a therapy set.
Well, maybe you can sugarcoat them a little bit for our lovely listeners.
To other options. It's the optimism that we've been waiting for for the first three minutes. Now let's just dial your date, April. We'll see if she answers, and hopefully we can get some information out of her. Here we go. Great. Dialing it right now. Hello? Hey, is this April? This is she. Who's this? Hey, April.
We're actually an entire morning radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
You sure are. With the most positive and optimistic, uplifting show that you will ever talk to.
It is.
Well, this is a segment that we do called Second Date Update. I don't know if you've ever heard of that before, but basically it's where we try to help our listeners get back in touch with somebody after going on a great first date with them.
well i mean we hope that it's great right okay sorry yeah i didn't say who we uh who you went out with the other night it's one of our our friends named lawrence ah okay all right you guys went bowling
She means that not sarcastically in any way.
We're wondering to get your perspective on how the whole evening went.
Okay.
Yeah. And all we're really looking for is to help out Lawrence because he is a little bit confused.
It's pretty bad.
He's a bad kisser.
He fell asleep mid-kiss. Who's the bad kisser? Him or you? It doesn't feel good.
Oh, shoot. Okay, yeah. Wait, is that him? Yeah, sorry, April. Is he on the call? The way this segment works is we have the other person waiting on hold on the other line to talk to you, and normally we call them in, but I think he felt like he had to say something.
Lawrence, you didn't bring up anything about a first kiss when we talked to you. Because I thought it was a super long hug. I don't know.
OK, but here's the question that we don't have that I think Dave wants from Nicole is that why did you ghost him? Like, why did you break off the romantic relationship with no explanation?
Oh, work is what bonded you together, so once that was taken away, there was nothing left to keep the relationship going.
Okay, well.
Yeah, and cool on fun Fridays, too.
Oh, Tom Petty.
okay i'm sorry this played out how it did and nicole i know you're a supervisor now and you probably know this but one rule is do not date any of your subordinates i don't think she's gonna make usually doesn't work out very well you know what trust me i will not i have a really hard job now with extra responsibilities and i really need to focus on that
For years, I would always get the best office gossip from the head of our HR department.
She would tell me all of the dirt about everybody here.
I'm not sure why they let her go.
The best.
Oh, I know some stuff about you. But look, certain work issues are too awkward to bring to HR. Then you got to take the elevator all the way down to the basement of morality.
And we're unable to protect anybody. That's why you can always tell us whatever's going on in your life, which is why our listener Dave has reached out with a work problem too scandalous for HR.
Dave, welcome to the show. Thank you, guys.
Whatever dirt that you want to share, we promise we won't share it with anybody else in the office.
Okay.
It's exactly what Brooke tried to do with me when I first started working here on the show as a promotions kid.
Remember, HR told me everything. I know.
He did. So, anyway, that's an awkward situation for you to be in, Dave. You're hooking up with one of your subordinates.
A month.
Well, could it be that forbidden fruit thing where it's like, since you're doing it and sneaking around, it's kind of fun and exciting, but now that it's out in the open, it's lost its luster? Mm-hmm.
I see. You're just looking for an explanation. I just want to know what's going on.
That's fair. And it says in your email here that you're only 46 years older than her. Shut up! I'm just kidding. Oh my God. I almost died. It's not like that. He has dementia. He thinks they hooked up. No.
It is crazy that she agreed to tell him, hey, go quit your job and we can be together. And then a month later, she's out.
We weren't there, Brooke. I don't know if she reacted like that.
Let's come back. We're going to let Dave call his ex-girlfriend.
Well, I was going to say his ex-coworker, at least.
We'll see if she picks up and has an explanation for him for why she told him, go ahead, quit your job, and then ghosted a month later.
The facts are she's ghosting him.
So let's see if she has anything to say about it when we come back and do your Awkward Tuesday phone call right after this. We always ask the question, what are you willing to do for true love? Well, our listener Dave was willing to quit his job for it. Literally.
He was dating one of his younger subordinates in secret until they both agreed, if we want to keep this thing going and go public with it, the best bet is for Dave to leave the company and get himself a new job.
Cuts out all the awkwardness.
They say when you know, you know. But the weird part is a month after he quit, she suddenly ghosted completely with no response, no explanation for where she's gone. So understandably, Dave is feeling confused and a little left out in the lurch. which is why he wants our help to call her. Now, we need to give him some advice. Jose, what do you think Dave needs to keep in mind?
Take back the power by saying goodbye first. Well, I don't want to say goodbye without knowing what happened. Okay.
Because he does want an explanation, so maybe, Brooke, you have some advice on that front.
I think Brooke is wanting a compliment from you, Dave. So can you just practice on her first?
Wow, almost believed it. So use some compliments to soften her up a little bit and say goodbye before she can say goodbye. Take back the power.
Hopefully that helps. But I'm going to dial your ex-coworker. What's her name, by the way?
With a conference call with a whole morning show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I'm feeling a bit ambushed right now.
Yeah, that's good news.
What is going on? Hey, Veronica, you're on the radio right now with a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
i'm on the radio yeah yeah uh jimmy is one of our listeners and he asked for help doing this thing called the awkward tuesday phone call it sounds like you have a history of yeah is there any job openings where you work yeah do a lot of people work sounds actually like more fun than where we were no you guys you shouldn't be doing this
Oh, Veronica. This is not the reaction that I was expecting at all. I thought she'd be upset or disappointed.
If anything, she sounds turned on. I mean, Jimmy, this isn't really what you were going for, was it?
yeah yeah that's a lot it was a really bad mistake that he made one night and it kind of just got out of control and that's why he didn't know how to reel it back in that's why we're here to help him and you know i called the radio show and they gave me this really bad advice and that's why we're here right now guess what jimmy it was free okay you didn't pay for it all right
Did he mention that he also has a second family that he abandoned overseas? It's too late. We're hanging out. Wow.
I mean, I guess. I don't know. It sounds like you're going to get a promotion at this job. I don't know about that.
She has had enough of you, Brooke.
Yeah, something is so antiquated. This is the modern working world, Brooke.
Jimmy, it sounds like your boss isn't going to give you much of a choice here.
You've got two special ladies in your life now, a work wife and an out-of-work wife.
Whatever. Okay.
You know, our show really is all about bringing people together.
Against all odds. That's what we try to do. Getting a 10 to agree to slum it with a 2.
Convincing a woman to give her ex-boyfriend one more chance.
He's changed.
Yeah, he promises he'll never make out with your mom again. Four times, that was enough.
So, again, we're all about bringing people together. That's why one of our listeners asked us for help turning a woman down. It was a little flummoxed. Although I do have to reject Brooke's advances every day. So maybe this is actually right up our alley.
Whoa, Brooke. Wow. Hunting up the heat a little bit on the conversation. But it is important for him because if he can't do this, his job is going to be on the line. You're going to hear why when we do your brand new Awkward Tuesday phone call right now.
Jose recently mentioned on the show how excited he was when he received a text message from me outside of work.
God, it's so embarrassing. Oh. i try to never text people outside of the workplace especially when i'm drinking because i know that anything that i say might come back to haunt me later just like it did on the show i know don't remind me don't remind me don't send me into the dark place again yeah i thought that was normal i was not making
Look, we all hit rock bottom at a certain point, and that was mine. But it's a good lesson to remember because I know our listener, Jimmy, wishes he had kept his phone in his pocket during a Saturday night out. Uh-oh. So, Jimmy, welcome to the show. Tell us how this whole ordeal started for you.
We're all one and done people on this show, so we can't relate.
Hey, they must have been so happy for you.
Oh, good for you.
So this is called the Awkward Tuesday phone call. Where does this story turn awkward?
You never, ever tell a woman that. No point in your life should that be revealed.
Please tell me you did not admit that to her. Well... I decided to text her this.
Okay, but like Brooke said, who hasn't been there and texted their boss drunkenly and confessed their true feelings for them?
Maybe she got like squinty stern emoji with that one.
That you have a whole PowerPoint presentation ready to share her feelings back to you?
Okay. My God. So we got one thing.
Thanks to Jose, we might have some hope because we're going to call your boss and let you talk to her to say, hey, I didn't mean to say I loved you in a text the other night. Try to get stuff back to normal with your job.
We'll let you make your Awkward Tuesday phone call to your boss right after this. We don't have an HR department here anymore.
But even with zero repercussions for our actions, we still know not to say I love you to our boss.
That's not me trying to put blame on our listener, Jimmy, because he did that accidentally during a night out drinking with his buddies. And he meant to send it as an I love you text message confession to the new girl that he'd been seeing, but instead it went to his boss who shares the same first name. And the worst part is the boss is actually into it. Yeah.
So, Jimmy, I didn't even ask you. What is your boss's name? It's Veronica. Veronica. Okay. So we're going to call your boss, Veronica, here and let you make this call. First, we need to get you some advice. So, Jose, what are you thinking?
OK, you know, you're not telling her that message wasn't for you.
Okay, okay. Lightly stepping away. Brooke, what do you think?
He still has to work with her, though. She's going to lose all respect for him.
Jimmy, how do you feel about those pieces of advice? Are you leaning towards either one? I mean, I guess if I had to choose, I'd probably go with the Jose one.
I love how Brooke describes honeymooning in the Bahamas as a bad thing. It is a bad thing, Jeff. Well, I don't know. That could be sounding kind of nice. That was funny. We're going to step away here, Jimmy. We're going to dial your boss, Veronica, for you and let you make your awkward Tuesday phone call.
We'll jump in if you feel like you need a little help. Here we go.
Oh, this is embarrassing. Oh, my God. Okay. Oh, my God. Oh, Maria.
Yo, what's going on, Brad, is you're on the radio right now with a really fun show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Oh, my God. Yeah. Hi, Brad.
Seriously? This is a segment that we do. It's called Awkward Tuesday Phone Call.
Oh, it should be Embarrassing Tuesday Phone Call today. Yeah, because he's kind of cringe right now.
Yeah, embarrassing for him. Well, sure.
Yes, we're going to go with that because you are our listener.
The whole thing, Brad, is that Maria was really worried that because of the past, it might come up at the wedding and make things awkward for her fiance and the family.
She didn't know how to bring it up. She asked for help. She just wants no drama.
You dated this woman. She can't be your sister.
Sure, that's hot.
Yeah, this should be refreshing, right, Maria? Yeah. You haven't cast.
I know. That was probably a lot to hear because it's not what you expected. I mean, is there like a small chance that maybe it was you that had the feelings? No way.
Copy-paste action. So, okay.
Oh, jeez. This is like, this is hard.
Yeah, I know it's probably a little bit of an ego blow to be hearing all this from Brad, but...
You're getting married. Yeah. That's what you need to concentrate on.
That's right. And maybe a good exercise is to take that poem and throw it away or set it on fire or something. That would be a good first step. Okay.
I think it would be fine if you told your fiancé that you guys dated a long time ago. Obviously, nothing's ever going to happen. I think so now, too. Yeah. Yeah.
That's it. Maybe don't bring it up.
Maria, it should be refreshing to know that your past relationship, or I guess Brad would say your non-relationship, is going to stay in the past.
Past hookup.
Yes.
That's actually cheered me up today. Brad, thanks for your time.
Don't do that either. This is the one time we're asking people not to share this on podcast.
Don't let this one go viral.
apple podcast wherever you get your favorite shows come hungry for season four all right it's time for your brand new awkward tuesday phone call welcome to the second date update podcast with brooke and jeffrey of course the home of the second date update and i'm just saying you're in for a treat because a bride is trying to stop a best man speech before it outs her 10 years secret she's been keeping yeah
We're going to get to that in just a second. But first, BB wrote us, greetings from the UK. I'm so obsessed with your show and got my best friend hooked as well. Aw. Isn't that cool? I just think it's so cool how people all over the world are into this.
Marie Airstead said, this show is all I listen to when coming home from work. Greetings from Denmark.
It's so good that the rest of the world can speak multiple languages, where we'll hear just being idiots with one.
Another one from Corin wrote, I look forward to this every day listening from South Africa. Thank you so much for being part of it.
Okay. Listen, let's get into this brand new Awkward Tuesday phone call. It starts right now.
When you think of best man speeches, they're always so well thought out, so sincere, concise, never weird or inappropriate.
Are you kidding me? They don't even scribble down anything on a napkin. They're like, I'll wing it.
Shakespeare in bro form.
That's why when one of our listeners emailed us saying she has to stop her husband's best man from giving a speech at all costs. I was like, what? Because apparently his speech could ruin not only her wedding, but maybe out a big secret that she's been hiding for the last 10 years.
She's willing to share it in exchange for some help in your brand new awkward Tuesday phone call coming up right after this.
Brooke, you got married once.
And I'm curious, how much of a say did you have in picking Michael's groomsman? Was that 100% your choice or did you give him like 5% say? 0%. Zero?
You gave him zero? No, no, I had zero percent. Oh, I thought you were saying.
Why are you putting up air quotes when you say that?
It was all his choice. I don't know.
You let him pick out his own groomsmen?
Who doesn't do that?
Giving away all the power to the man. How 1940s of you. But I only ask because one of our listeners is recently engaged and she is having an issue with someone selected for their wedding party. Oh. So let's talk to her about it. Maria, welcome to the show.
Oh, you already sound a little annoyed there, Maria.
It's not even a him, it's an it. Isn't it obviously, like, his best friend or his brother? Yeah, I was going to say. I mean, you kind of just know who that person's person is, right? Or might be.
Why does it matter to you?
okay no and it's not his brother though no it's not a family member okay okay because that would be more of a red flag to me yeah that's the red flag you gotta have all that out in the open what are you talking about no i didn't want it to get messy or weird hi it's messy now i know i know how long ago are we talking
Back in high school. Okay. It's better. It makes you feel better. It feels a little more innocent, right?
So were you all high school friends?
And I could just see him doing that. That's interesting. So you're actually worried about him outing you for being a liar. But it makes him look bad too, right? Yeah. Yeah, but sometimes drunk guys don't think all the way through those things.
Yeah, like on his deathbed.
You think it's too late to tell your fiancé now? God, yes.
I think it's going to be too much. Okay. You don't think he would laugh if it came up in the speech at the wedding? No.
Well, no, this is good because I clearly need to adjust my wedding speech that's coming up. So I'm learning.
Yeah. So wait, you don't want us to call your fiance about this? No, we're going to call the guy I used to date. What? We're calling the best man. Oh, my God.
Quit his best man job?
You can't do that to your fiance.
That's his best friend. This is going to be coming out of the blue to this guy. Don't you think this guy is going to be like, what are you talking about? We dated in high school.
That's a different situation.
The truth is coming out slowly.
I don't know about asking him to completely bow out.
Wait a minute. Has he like hit on you or has there been a moment or something? Why do you think he has feelings?
Well, I mean, it is kind of like you're both in on a little lie because you're not telling.
I mean, Brooke, think of the vibe when you hang out with me. It's kind of like that same thing.
You guys got the secret. You know, I see the look. Yeah, we never dated. Love.
I know you want to, but I'm not going to let it happen.
I think you're misremembering that segment. See?
Tension.
Feel that? I feel like Jeff is her in this situation.
It's all coming from over on that side of the room, and I need to cut this off because we have an important thing to do here, Brooke.
I don't want to have to call my husband. That would be awkward. I know.
You never want to call him. You always want to talk to me. So, look, let's just you take some time to think some quality advice to give to Maria here so we can come back, dial this best man, and politely let him know that he needs to either bow out of the wedding or at least not bring up their past relationship during the speech.
All right. Easy for you. All right. So let's do it with your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this. Hold on.
Weddings are supposed to be one of the most joyous, fun times of your life.
But we have a bride-to-be who is stressed out, and not for the normal wedding reasons.
It's because her fiancé picked out his best man, and he doesn't know this, but she used to date that guy back in high school. Oh, my gosh.
She'll always know this. And they've been keeping the secret, her and the guy, for like 10 years.
The worst part, though, is she feels like the guy still might even like her. So it all comes down to this. She's asked us to give her advice about do you ask him to not come to the wedding at all and relieve himself of his best man duties? Oh, my God. Or can we ask him to go through with it and just keep his mouth shut and don't say a word, especially with a microphone in his hand?
Yeah.
Is that right, Maria? Yeah, that's right.
She's like, I'm even more stressed now. I know.
I can sense that you're nervous, so let's get you some advice. Brooke, what do you got for her?
Okay, first, do not tell him to not be the best man. I'm going to tell you, that is just going to create so much drama. Right. Ask him to be your husband, like he's always wanted. No. I would say ask him nicely to not bring it up in the speech and If you have to play a little dirty, okay It's just like you've known this guy for over ten years.
You've got to have some like something you can blackmail him with Okay, just a little threatening how do you feel about threatening the best man for the wedding I You made your bed. I agree. The high school relationships, there's got to be something cringy you have of his. Thank you.
Absolutely. I agree.
So, idle threats are on the table.
So he doesn't have to buy anything. I kind of like it, Jose. It's a good compromise. I would say what any bride wanted me to if I didn't have to buy a gift.
Everyone tell me. I don't know who this guy was, but was he planning on buying a gift anyway? I'm going to let you know at least half of my husband's groomsmen did not get us anything. You tell him. He's like, oh, yeah, we got to buy a gift. Yeah.
Brooke's almost threatening her husband's groomsmen now, so taking her own advice.
So we will have Brooke on deck to pass out all the threats that you need, but I don't think you're going to need that. But I'm going to dial this best man and let you talk to him, okay? Okay. What is his name, by the way? Oh, yeah. His name's Brad. Brad, okay. I'm going to call Brad for you.
Go on. Brad is not going to see this coming, but I'm dialing his number right now. Here we go.
I mean, you're not wrong, but also.
Well, I know, but I don't get it yet. And you said that you didn't tell the kids at the beginning of the party that they were building a bear for the birthday girl. They're seven years old.
These people also already brought gifts. They brought gifts already, and that was something they put thought into of what your daughter would like.
I would say Brooke would love a Build-A-Bear if she could. Even if you still think you're right, which is fine, you're going to ruin your daughter's social life if you keep down this line. That's a good point. She's not going to get invited to birthday parties because of this.
I mean, I think that you're trying to make your daughter happy.
That's what we all want for our children. I just think that maybe the lesson of looking at others and putting others first is a good one too.
You're a little too creative. I wouldn't call that a bad, that's also a bad parrot move.
It's Tuesday here on your Second Date Update podcast, which means you get a little awkward, all right? Yes! And today's is pretty special because there is, I don't know if you saw it, but like a viral TikTok issue with a kid's birthday party where they all ended in tears. Oh! One of the parents is actually on the phone with us to deal with it. So it's going to be fun.
But before we get to it, I just got to say... I know you can tell we look cuter today.
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Where all big disagreements happen now.
God, do you know how many fights I've gotten in? Oh yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Interesting that children's birthdays aren't in my algorithm, Jeffrey. Yeah, I don't know why.
Apparently better than you if you're viral on TikTok for an issue.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's just, yeah.
Oh, it's like a Build-A-Bear party.
Don't you love that age when your kids finally get to the drop-off parties? And you don't have to stay any longer?
Awesome. Okay.
Yeah.
She's crying.
No.
There's always one kid at the party. Yeah. All of a sudden. I mean, it sucks that it's yours. I get it.
Wait, what? Like they went to a party and they made their own Build-A-Bear without knowing it was for the birthday girl.
Why would the little birthday girl need 11 stuffed animals? Like why would the mom do that?
I mean, what was the reason? Did you ever get to the bottom of that?
That is so weird. Okay, hold on. I mean, you didn't pay for it, right? Like, the mom paid for it.
The birthday mom paid for everybody to make these.
But how as a mother could you see all these children crying and still be like, this is the choice.
Oh. Okay, get your bear back. I mean, is that what you're going to ask for? The bear back?
Text, emails, direct messages, all of us.
Tell Brooke she's a bad mom.
It sounds so bad, but there was some type of logic behind it. I mean, we talk about core memories. This is definitely one. You're never going to forget it.
Bully her.
Yeah.
Yeah, good, Brooke. No, honestly, like I know you heard from another parent what this mom's intentions were. But if you want her to like understand what she did is wrong. I think that you need to have her explain why. Like you haven't just asked her. I think you need to come in with an open mind. Nobody ever changes their mind if they're attacked. Right.
If you're on the defense, you are never going to see somebody else's opinion.
You were pretty heated like five minutes ago. Don't get so upset. I mean, in the end, it's just a teddy bear. Those are nice, expensive bears. Okay. I can put custom sound in there.
What are you talking about?
What the hell is that? What the point of this was? It wasn't an outer for being an a-hole.
But it was for advice. We were trying to help the situation, not make it worse.
What's going on?
Hey, we're slowly making Tuesday your favorite day of the week. One week at a time. Hey, you found the Second Date Update podcast. Thank you for being here. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. But today is always your awkward Tuesday phone call.
Oh. Good. Tried to pack in all that French. Yeah.
All right. Fake it till you make it.
Yeah. Good luck to her and good luck to you.
We recorded that call last week. Yeah. And we just got word yesterday. I think everybody should know. There's an update on the job situation.
Dude, I want to know. Did her friend get hired or not?
Apparently, her friend got to the final four candidates but did not get hired for the role.
You did it out of a good place. Why did you keep sleeping with him? Wait, seven times?
Oh. Okay, but that's on her friend.
I don't know. Did she not get hired because of the references? Yeah, what was the split?
It might be for the best because it would be hard to live up to the lofty image that she had painted for her with all of the McDonald's stuff, the French voices.
so funny but maybe the best news out of all of this is their friendship is still intact friend appreciated lori went to bat for her and promises from now on she's not gonna list her as a reference yeah i think after she heard the call this morning she's definitely gonna back that up yeah she has asked if brooke will be a reference for her so brooke you got this i didn't do well in french so i'm gonna
Yes, just to prove how bad he is. Well, one of our listeners says she has to do one of those things because she is in a tough spot.
Whatever language you speak, French or hopefully English, you can listen to all of our second dates, our Awkward Tuesdays, wherever you get them, on Apple, Spotify. Check it out at Brooke and Jeffrey.
I hope it's not the husband one.
Her friend has requested that she tell maybe the biggest lie of her entire life. And if she doesn't do it right, it could come back and ruin her friend's career. So you'll hear why she needs to do this with our help in your brand new Awkward Tuesday phone call right after this. It's an unfortunate fact that people lie all the time.
They do. I mean, the stats say yes, because it's always one of the most downloaded of the week. So that is awesome. Thank you so much for being here. It is unlike any we've ever done before, I will say that.
That wasn't true. So some lies are really bad, but some are kind of harmless.
Yeah, some are necessary, to be honest.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, depending on the situation. There's some necessary lies in life.
Like, for example, where would this one rank? I'll say the statement. You tell me how bad it is.
Okay.
Brooke tells her family and friends she went to an accredited college. Keep the story going. I wouldn't change it if I was you either. You're in way too deep now.
Pretty much. I understand why she twists the truth a little bit. But even Brooke's web of deceit isn't as bad as the one our listener Lori finds herself caught in today.
Oh, that's got to be really bad. Where's your degree from, Lori?
Lori, welcome to the show.
Oh, your friend. Who lied in this situation? You or your friend?
Oh, and then expected you to cover maybe?
Why? What happened?
Yeah.
Oh, no. Oh, God. Oh, no. I mean, if she would have asked, what would you have said? I mean, you'd have to lie. That's one of those necessary lies. You'd have to say, okay.
Brooke, you would totally put Jose down on your resume, right?
Don't lie, Brooke.
Don't lie. I would definitely use Jose as my reference.
Different.
So, Lori, your friend didn't warn you that she was doing this?
Oh, okay. Oh, a voicemail. That's good. Yeah, so it went to voicemail.
Different and possibly illegal. But we need to get to some listener comments first.
I didn't realize that people actually called the references either.
I mean, it's pretty bad if you put down somebody as a reference and they don't give a good referral.
that's why i didn't put my mom down as a reference it was too risky so do you know did your friend put you down as like a past employer like a professional reference yes yeah not as a friend not as a friend did you actually oh you used to like okay did you work with her
If someone called your friends, you would have been outed in five seconds.
I feel like it might be a generational thing where everyone in Alexis's generation doesn't really know about that or how it works.
Oh, lied on their resumes?
Yeah.
Or just cared?
Well, yeah, all falls under the same category. So now, Lori, it sounds like you're in kind of a tough position. What are you wanting to do?
The boss has reached out, like, asking to have this conversation.
But we're going to be on the other line. Like, the boss will know.
I mean, Lori, if the boss busts you and realizes that you aren't really one of your friend's past employers, we should probably jump on to try and help you and your friend.
If it makes you feel any better, Lori, we're radio hosts and we barely speak English. So you'll probably be able to get something passable by when we come back and give you our advice, then let you give a reference to your, a professional reference for your friend.
This is such a bad idea. I love it.
I know. That's why it's so great for your Awkward Tuesday phone call right after this. Okay, hold on.
We've done a lot of awkward calls on this show. Never one like this before, though. No. Where our listener Lori has asked us to assist in giving a professional job reference for her friend.
And there's a few problems with it. One, Lori has never actually worked with her friend in any professional capacity before.
So that's a lie. Also, the reference implies that she's a fluent French speaker, which is not true at all. So hopefully the call doesn't even go there. But Lori wants to know, how do we help her fake it to make it sound legit? And luckily, Brooke fakes it every couple of nights. Or at least her husband does.
Brooke, we need your fake wisdom here. Okay, I've got this. What does Lori do?
If she asks you to speak French, you just tell her you're on a French fast. Is that a thing? Maybe you gave up the language for Lent. Maybe it was attracting too many men. You just are taking a break from French right now.
Too many carbs in the French language for you.
Sure, yeah. You just can't do it right now.
Okay. So lock that nugget into your mind. Jose, what advice do you have for Lori?
Yeah, because I think the longer that you stay on the phone, the more you open yourself up to the opportunity to be found out as a fraud.
That's called the Brooke anniversary special.
Okay. I'm going to dial the numbers really fast, and we'll jump in if you feel like you need help, but we won't. You've got this, okay?
Oh, God. Okay.
Okay, here we go.
Oh, yeah. The pasta cast. And it's starting right now with your awkward Tuesday phone call.
How far would you go to help out a friend?
What? He's gone, right?
Would you steal for them?
Yeah, he hung up.
What the heck? But, Lori, you're still there? Oh, yeah.
You panicked. Oh, Lori.
Did you call french fries mini baguettes?
It seemed interesting.
I think she was a little bit worried about the French references in the thing. I told you. Trying to overcompensate.
Would you lie for them? No.
I actually thought that was pretty good.
That was actually, out of all the things she said, most solid. Okay. I'm sorry.
I think overall it's better than most of the reference job interview things that happen, at least at the radio station.
That is not a good comparison. Well, I'm saying... No, we don't have professional people here.
Well, it could have gone worse.
Okay. That man left so confused. Yeah.
But maybe that builds the mystique of the friend.
The French drink.
Would you cheat with their significant other and capture it on a secret camera to go back and show them? I told you he is no good. All seven times that night.
A glass of wine. What we did today is we put the pressure on the second reference in her resume.
Or her mom, yeah. Hopefully your friend has a good second person on that list.
Yeah.
You did it. I think you need to tell her about at least the McDonald's campaign for French fries and baguettes. So if they ask her about it, she knows.
I mean, we all know that French fries come from France, right? I don't know. I didn't even really get what she made up there. Was it just the campaign, the marketing thing, or was it... Well, she's an international sales expert, so of course.
Dumb question, Brooke. Sorry, guys. Okay, well, Jamie, the good news is you followed through on your promise to your friend. You gave her a reference. It's not necessarily a great reference, I don't think, but you did it.
You followed through.
All our French listeners.
Can you do us a favor and update us whether or not your friend gets the job? I'm really curious.
But it turns out, Shannon, you're just a two-timing cheater.
Well, it's pretty valid to the situation.
Yeah, everyone's our friend. He is. No, we're really clinging. You don't know us.
Sorry. After all of this, you think Jacob would still want to be around you?
Jacob? I mean, are you insane? It's got to be a joke. Well, what does your schedule look like next time?
Wait, let's bring it back a couple of months. Jacob, we're on tape here, so this can be used in the court of law.
Jacob, are you willing to call this strike one and give it two more strikes? You know, in the name of friendship. Yeah.
I don't know what to say to you, Shannon, honestly.
Sure.
I do perform at weddings, so you can hire me. Jacob, the good news is you got the truth, right? That's what you were after here the whole time.
You mean us, right?
If a friend calls you at 11 o'clock at night and demands to come over because they have to tell you something in person and it can't wait.
It's probably good news, right?
Yeah. Or maybe they found an extra McNugget in their McDonald's bag.
Does it say 15% by switching insurance providers?
No?
Okay, well, unfortunately for our listener, his buddy called him to drop a huge bomb about his girlfriend.
And now he needs our help getting the truth from her about what really happened.
We're going to find out when we do your brand new Awkward Tuesday phone call right after this.
Is there any circumstance where you're out somewhere and you see a friend's significant other doing something that they shouldn't be doing and you decide to keep your mouth shut? Because, I mean, you can rationalize it in your head. Like, you know what? It's not really any of my business. I don't want to jump to conclusions and stir up drama if that's not really what's going on.
My eyesight really isn't that good anyway. That could have just been a mannequin and I'm totally seeing it.
Yeah. Is there any chance you do that? Or do you go tell your friend immediately what you saw?
Why, did you guys see something?
Why? Why aren't you telling? Why aren't you sure?
See, this is exactly what happened to our listener, Jacob, who is left dealing with a very bizarre situation now, and he does not know how to proceed. Jacob, hey, man, are you holding up okay? Honestly, you guys, not really.
I disagree. You should be spending 24-7 with them, but, you know, that's just my clingy nature.
Well, did he mention anything specific, like if they were kissing or holding hands?
Well, maybe it was just like her friend's engagement ring that she was trying on for fun. You girls are always swapping jewelry and clothes.
And I'll give you your shirt back after the segment. Did he mention anything specific like that?
No, he's hoping that she is cheating.
I see what you're saying. Everybody in this room is kind of in agreement. It looks really bad for her right now. And it's very, very likely that something is happening behind your back here.
That is a pretty frequent thing that we get on the show.
I think that's a highly likely possibility when we call her here.
Yeah.
He's engaged.
That's totally different. No, Jake, I'm sorry that you're going through this, but we're going to try and give you a little bit of advice here before we call your girlfriend, Shannon, and let you ask her the question, what was going on when my friend saw you out the other night at a lounge wearing an engagement ring with another guy?
You don't have to hit on him now. He's still with somebody. We'll get to that in a second. Your Awkward Tuesday phone call is coming up right after this. If you're just joining us for the Awkward Tuesday phone call, this is what we know. Our listener Jacob has a girlfriend of about half a year. She was spotted out recently at a lounge with a different guy wearing an engagement ring.
So right there, that's weird.
When Jacob brought it up to her in a fun way, he expected her to laugh and explain, oh, it's just a stupid situation. I had to wear it. It was a big joke. But no, she got upset and left and has not spoken to him since. That's why he needs our advice today on what to say to get his girlfriend to just tell him the truth of what is really going on. It's the least that he deserves.
Brooke, what's your advice to Jacob?
That's not really advice.
Okay.
All right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There was actually a little bit of advice in there. Good job.
Okay. Jose, what about you? What do you think Jacob needs to remember?
I think actually all of us could take that advice in this room. We should listen and not judge her yet. Because there could be a logical explanation for this. We're all going to look really stupid if we're being as hateful as Brooke is towards her already.
That's actually what we do best on the show. Let's call her. We'll see if Shannon picks up, and then we'll step away and let you make your awkward call. We'll be here if you feel like you need a little bit of help. Okay, good luck.
Shannon. Oh, my God. Shannon.
We've been listening to this call. Who is this? You're on the radio right now with a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. We're doing something called Awkward Tuesday Phone Call.
Yeah.
Yeah. We do a lot of these phone calls, I'll tell you, Shannon, and we don't normally get a lot that end like this. Usually it's somebody playing a joke. There's some hilarious misunderstanding.
What?
That's a sound effect that we played off of our board here.
Much older technology because you're on the radio right now with a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Oh. Yeah. That's fair. I'm hoping it's a lot less than 100% accurate.
Okay, okay. What you're missing because you're not a mom yet is that mothers are blind to how cute their babies are. We all think our own children are cute. It's just like it's biology. It is true. It's just how it works.
You're going to have gorgeous babies. But I kind of understand where you're coming from. You do. It'd be a hard image to erase. It's like I never tried on a wedding dress before I actually was engaged because I didn't want to see what it would look like. It freaked me out.
Yeah. You have a lot of choice over it from what I understand.
I'm kind of glad that he didn't.
Oh, I didn't know there was older photos.
Did you just name your AI children?
I think at the end of the day, we all think that Davis seems like a sweet guy.
Who is really into you.
The gesture fell flat.
He admits that. He knows.
Right, Davis? Yeah, that's it. One big bad thing.
And when I'm not sure during these segments what should happen next, I always go to our expert, Alexis, on what she would do in this situation leading the show. Alexis.
Samantha, what do you think about that idea?
Okay. I'd love to see a picture of you two at the Olive Garden together. That should be a good theme for all dates. Yeah.
For everyone. We normally don't promote book burning on this show, but maybe we can make an exception for this one time.
The AI book. The only book that should be banned.
Just this one. You guys destroy it and make new dreams for your future.
I like it. I'm in. I'm all in.
Samantha, what do you think about talking this out with Davis off the air? We'll end this call and you two can hash it out.
That's all we care about.
Oh, okay. You're into it.
Better much than we thought. All right, well, let us know how that conversation goes.
Hey, it's the Second Date Update podcast, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And today, of course, it's Tuesday, which now means it is an awkward Tuesday phone call. Yeah. I just want some comments on this one. Worst gift you were ever given by a significant other. You guys have any? Yeah.
I was like, did I just get scammed? That is so embarrassing. Did you have to take the stuff back from the counter, or did you buy it? No, I bought it. I mean, you got it with that money.
How is that not the worst gift you've ever been given? Empty gift cards. Yeah, maybe it's up there. I'll need to think a little more about that.
Do you still use it?
All right, well, leave your worst gift in the comments here. We'll read some comments from earlier this week. What do we got, Alexis?
Are we like the broccoli of podcasts? Like you hate it as a kid. And then once you get older, you're like, this is delicious. And we smell a little bad. Yeah. All right. We're okay with that. Thanks for your comments. Thanks for listening. And sit back and enjoy today's awkward Tuesday phone call.
When it comes to giving gifts, they say it's the thought that counts.
Yeah, that's such a nice sentiment.
Yeah, okay, sure. But then I buy everyone personalized coffee mugs for Christmas, and then suddenly you're all mad at me because they cause fires when you put them in the microwave. So I'm sorry, which one is it?
They were expensive. Personal coffee mugs. It's the opposite. They can't be washed because they're so nice. I mean, if it said my full name. There's gold in them. But it said a B. I mean, any, like, obviously. It was an ornate B, but fine.
I just know one of our listeners brought a gift to his date with a special lady, and her response, historic.
It wasn't a mug. And the reaction, I don't even think, was as bad as the reaction I got from my gift.
You're going to find out what it was and why he turned to us for an awkward Tuesday phone call because this is much, much bigger than a regular second date. We're going to make that call coming up right after this.
I've never personally matched with somebody on Instagram, but I've heard that people do do that.
It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And one of our listeners named Davis matched with a lady on IG two years ago.
Wow. I mean, to be fair, Jeff, you probably don't remember what your password is. So you probably have it locked in.
You have it for me, right?
No. Oh. No, I don't keep that. Okay.
I would go to IT, but that department doesn't exist here anymore.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I'll figure it out someday. Back to Davis. Two years ago, he took a chance, asked a girl out on IG.
And nothing happened.
So that puts him in the 99.99999% of guys who DM ladies with no answer.
Yeah, it's true.
So many options to avoid men. It's amazing. But our producer insists that this story is different.
And he implored me to have Davis on the show to tell us what happened and explain why he deserves an awkward Tuesday phone call today.
So I obliged. Davis, welcome to the show.
Dude, we're so invested already in your story. What a setup.
Yeah, for sure.
Oh, you were talking.
No, it's soul meeting.
right so she says why not i'm single let's try it oh okay sure god i love a why not answer i've got literally nothing else going on in my life sure i finally hit rock bottom why not and what's this beautiful instagram girl's name samantha samantha samanthas are always hot oh yeah just in the name makes sense yeah okay so did you guys finally go out
Oof. Okay, set the scene. Where were you? What were you doing?
I was thinking the other C word, creepy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So wait, can you describe some of these photos for us? Because maybe it's not as bad as we're thinking.
What was in the scrapbook?
Are the dolphins jumping over the delivery room bed too? No. Because that would be awesome.
That would not be awesome. No? What were you thinking? And what were the babies' names?
Why weren't you able to explain it's a joke?
Okay, so this is what you want to do with the Awkward Tuesday. We're reaching out to Samantha here, hoping to walk back a little bit of the damage that you've done. That's exactly what I'm hoping for.
God, that is so hard. I feel like you missed your opportunity to tell her it was a joke. I feel like if you tell her now, she's going to just assume you're saying that because she was freaked out by it.
This is good advice, Brooks.
I don't know.
Sounds like Brooks' advice is lean harder into it. I don't know. There's way more pictures if you want them.
I just think it's going to be harder than you think.
Well, we're going to work on how to give you the best advice we could possibly come up with. Okay. And then call your, what is she? She's not even your girlfriend.
No, just the girl he's talking to. Yeah, the girl you're talking to. Hey, that's his future wife. We have pictures. How dare you?
Your possible future wife. And let her know the AI scrapbook wasn't meant to be serious.
We'll do it in your Awkward Tuesday phone call right after this.
We've got a tech whiz on the phone with us today named Davis who recently used his super AI powers to scare a woman that he just started dating. He didn't mean to.
It was all meant as a joke when he made an AI scrapbook that showed their future life together over the next 40 years. Again, a joke. The good news is it wasn't on the first date that he did this. He waited till the third date.
Means that the pictures of her, the AI photos of her in the delivery room should have been so funny. Yeah.
But now it has been 10 days since then, and she did seem a little bit freaked out by some of the photos that he showed her.
Okay.
Okay. Well, that's fair. So now you just need a couple pieces of advice before we call Samantha and try to explain to her. It's not as serious as it seemed in the moment. So, Brooklyn, what do you think he should do?
This is a little bit of a white lie, but you just tell her that your other nerd coworkers were, like, all making up for their girlfriends, and their girlfriends thought it was so funny. You got carried away. You realize that, you know, you're not together yet, and it was too much too soon. So sorry.
Bully yourself by calling you a nerd and all of your friends.
I'm sure you would consider yourself a nerd, right?
Putting him on the spot. Oh.
I would go with just I'm funny.
If that gives him confidence, let him be confident in the things that he likes about himself. He's confidently a nerd. All right. So we're running out of time, but remember, you're a nerd, but you're a confident nerd.
I'm going to dial her number and let you make your awkward Tuesday phone call. Good luck, man.
We might even do like a little day cruise just so that you can get a little preview of Bojitsu.
I'm not going to fight you, the captain, or whoever.
I'm sorry, Catherine. We're running out of time. We need an answer. What do you think about one more date with Mike?
There we go. Mike, there you go. You have exactly three days to change careers and figure out how to support yourself financially. Good luck.
I know I'm not the only one who's been wanting to hear from these two again.
Finally, we've got Mike and Catherine back on the phone for an update update.
Let's talk to them. Hey, guys, how's it going? It sounds like you are still together and unconcussed. We are together. Yay, Catherine lives.
Just the fighting, you mean? The Karjitsu?
She makes the signs and everything.
Yeah, you get beat up for a living. You don't want to be choking people out in a Subaru in your 70s and 80s. That makes it better.
Well, I don't know if they have it, but hopefully, Mike, someday you'll end up in the Car Jitsu Hall of Fame. And you guys can take your kids to see daddy's golden seatbelt trophy up on the wall and be like, oh, those were the days.
That's the Hall of Fame.
Wow. Well, hey, congratulations. We're glad to hear that you two are still together and that you're moving forward with your relationship. So cool.
Yay!
Well, keep us updated on how your relationship continues to change and what your next endeavor is going to be, Mike.
It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Should I stay? Okay, Sam, that has to be the craziest story in OK Storytime podcast history.
If you put something on your dating profile or your dating app and everybody thinks it's a joke, but it's 100% serious, what are you supposed to do?
For example, on my JDate profile, I wrote, my mom made this dating account without my permission because she is that desperate for me to find love.
She did. And then I took it over and I was like, I didn't make this. My mom did.
But women did not think it was funny.
Yeah. And one of our listeners.
One of our listeners knows exactly what it's like to be misunderstood on the dating apps. His name is Mike. So, Mike, welcome to the show, man.
It did say in your email that women do not believe what's written on your bio is actually real. What's on there?
Carjitsu.
See, Brooke, this is why people get confused. Even just the word doesn't make any sense to people.
Yeah, I do have the video clip that you sent. Let me take a second to show my co-hosts because they have not seen this yet. Are you ready to look?
Oh, this is like Brooke and her husband at makeout point.
Who can pin the other?
There's lots of strange, unusual sports that people don't know about, and it's good that we have a backup plan for when our careers go down the drain.
But how does this get into you and your date that you went on? Yeah.
Okay. And Catherine is the woman that we're going to be calling today.
Okay, yeah, that's not horrible. But everyone was laughing.
Were you offended that there was laughter?
That's a good thing. You don't want to let her go. I understand why you reached out to us. What's happened since that night?
Oh. All right. Is that a threat? Because I don't want to make you mad or anything, dude. Or do you want to make her mad?
Okay. Okay. We're going to do whatever you say here, Mike. We're just going to come back. We'll call Catherine for you, and we'll make sure that you get your second date update right after this, okay?
All right, thanks. Don't hurt me. Second date update.
We've heard a lot of people's stories on this show, their professions, their interests and hobbies. This might be one of the strangest, though, because one of our listeners, Mike, is a professional karjitsu fighter.
Or a carjitsu wrestler. I still don't know what the exact terminology is. I think it's fighter.
Yeah. A car artist. Whatever he is, he's a pro at it. Yeah. But somebody who was familiar with it and was proud of him was his date, Catherine.
She was so proud that at the bar she drunkenly stood up and challenged any man there to fight her boyfriend in Karjitsu. And that's where the fun kind of ended because she began to sober up afterwards and started saying, are you mad at me that I told everybody about that and showed them the videos? Are you mad? And he kept saying no. And she kept saying, yeah, I can tell you're mad at me.
You're mad. And that didn't go well. So now here we are days later. She might be too embarrassed to talk to him again. At least that's what Mike thinks.
No. No.
So do you have any final thoughts before we call Catherine? Anything else that we should know? Look, I really want to see
Maybe she can get into the profession a little bit too if this works out. I'm going to dial her right now. Let's see if she picks up. Here we go. Hello? Hi, is this Catherine? Yes, who's this? Hey, Catherine, we're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning, and we're hoping to borrow just a few minutes of your time, if that's okay? Uh... No.
Can we ignore the no? The thing is, we're not calling on behalf of us. We're actually calling on behalf of somebody you know, a guy named Mike that you went on a date with recently.
Yeah.
That was quick. Because we don't just call random people for no reason. This is part of a segment we do called Second Date Update.
Because he told us the story of what happened that night.
He mentioned that you stood up at one point and challenged everybody in the bar to fight him in Karjitsu.
Okay. Well, it sounds like maybe that wasn't the problem then with the night. We're trying to help Mike figure out if there was a specific reason that you've been avoiding him or not wanting to see him again.
Has she battled him and lost in a fight? You can't date my mortal enemy.
Well, isn't that every woman's dream to take care of a man like a baby child until they're old?
No, I could see why you would have some concerns about the future of your guys' relationship, but we're not the people to defend that. The only person that can is Mike himself, and he just happens to be on the other line right now waiting to talk to you. Yeah.
Sorry, that's how this works, Catherine.
she's concerned about your future there mike is this something that you see doing for like the rest of your life as a way to earn income you say you make money no no that's what she doesn't understand i do have a backup plan okay what is it what's your backup plan like a ref what did you say i'm sorry what Boat jitsu.
Boat jitsu? You're going from car jitsu to boat jitsu?
I do think that we're trying. We're all thinking way too long term here. The whole goal of this call is to just set you guys up on one more date. What do you think, Catherine? It's a date that we'll pay for if you're up for it.
We'd like to offer to send you guys out one more time, and we would pay for it. Oh.
It's true what they say. What do they say, Jeff? You can build this love together. Some things do last forever. Nothing's going to stop us now. Except we're running out of time to do the second date update, so we've got to stop it.
Months ago, we convinced them to give it another try, and it sounds like they did because both Rob and Maggie are back with us today on the show.
Let's find out. Rob, were you able to step up the romance for Maggie?
And I didn't want that. Oh, no. You said he wasn't trying hard enough when we had you on the phone before.
Be perfect. Okay, sure. Rob, were you able to do that?
It's kind of hard to calibrate here. He's trying not to come on too strong with his affirmation.
There you go.
Sometimes in the dating world, you realize the ideal person that you have built up in your mind isn't necessarily the ideal person for you in real life. Rip that right out of Brooke's wedding vows to her husband. What? Jeff. That could be the case for our listener Rob today.
Well, you said him. Who says he met a different type of woman than the one he would normally go for. And he described her in the email as someone who doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, is 100% vegan, and must be in bed every night by 8.45 p.m. Dang.
How did you let this party animal slip through your fingers?
No, not at all. It could be an opposites attract sort of situation where you like mesh together over time.
Well, what'd you guys do when you guys went out? Well, it was weird. We went on two dates back to back over a weekend. Well, that makes sense because she has to be in bed by 845, so there's not very much time for that first one.
I mean, ew to me, but for her, that's great.
Sure. Yeah, and it actually tasted pretty good.
It can be scary. Like, I'm a foodie, and even someone going to a vegan restaurant, it's kind of intimidating. Well, maybe it's like the ice cream shop where they have the one vegan option for the people. They have one meat plate for the meat eaters.
No. Off-menu, we have a really bloody stage.
Okay. Yeah. Your first two dates sound like they went great. So what's happened since then?
we built this dream together nothing lasts forever nothing's gonna stop us right yeah the old guy in the room that's a good song no i know that song yeah everyone knows that she trying to like force a couple's song already oh yeah like what have we built we were on two dates wait did you say that to her
Yeah, you slammed her taste in music.
But you said that changed things between you two. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't trying to put her down.
Man, we're back to the 1980s again.
The Decade of Love. 16 Candles. Dirty Dancing. Ghost. All the best love movies. I can honestly say that we built this thing together. Nothing lasts forever. Who's going to stop us now? Unless Maggie doesn't answer the phone, then that would kind of stop us and we'd be screwed.
This is the song from the 1980s that kind of soured the relationship. After Rob went on back-to-back dates with Maggie, both of which went great, but this Spotify song ruined it because Rob said, eh, I'm not really a fan.
But Brooke had a good point. He was trying to say, I don't really like this song. Maybe Maggie took it as he doesn't like my love. He's rejecting our relationship.
But that's not the case. That's why Rob has reached out to us, hoping we can re-spark this, get this going again, maybe do a little ghost love scene situation. Right, Rob? That's right.
That would be perfect. Shirtless, though, and you have to be behind her back.
Okay, cool. Well, we don't know for sure if she took it that way. That's just Brooke's opinion, and you know how valuable that is.
I'm just saying, we don't know. That's all I'm saying. That's totally what you're saying. Let's find out once and for all. I'm going to call it right now. Here we go. Hello. Hi, is this Maggie?
Who is this? We gotcha. Don't yell. We gotcha. Sorry. I mean, I'm happy that you answered is what I meant to say. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And we've been dying to talk to you.
I mean, why? What's going on? Because we're doing a segment here called A Second Date Update, and it's where we try and help out our listeners if they've kind of stalled out in their dating life with somebody. We're trying to help somebody named Rob.
He actually told us that he felt really good about it. How did you feel?
You like grand romantic gestures. That's what you like. Yes, exactly. That's totally fair. It could be a lot, though, for some guys to process that after just one weekend hanging out, you know? And not a lot of guys are romantic at all. Well, they should be.
Oh, really? It's on your profile.
Got it. OK. And you feel like Rob was not fulfilling those needs for you.
So we did hear about that text and the song being sent to him. Honestly, here is what I worry about for you, Maggie. Along the way in your life, you've come up with this idea for a fairy tale romance in your mind.
I see. It's totally OK to have these ideals in your head, but you have to be able to adjust to other people. Because no one is going to match up perfectly with everything that you've set out for yourself.
But she said the problem was he didn't like one song.
But the thing is, that's the conversation. You have to go off of the two great dates that you guys had together. That is not easy to do in the modern dating world. We never hear about that. That's special, and that's something that you should actually hold on to. Not that he didn't like a song that you texted him one time. Do you know what I mean?
It's too easy for people to just ghost right now on these dating apps over one dumb little thing. You have to remember, two great first dates. Hold on to that. Cherish that.
Brooke, I don't need your love hate right now. I'm trying to build a love tower. And that's why.
That's why I need to tell you, Maggie. Rob is on the phone right now. You like a grand romantic gesture. Here it is.
Delivered. Hey, Maggie.
Brooke's been saying that same thing to her husband for the last 10 years. Try a little harder?
Yeah. I think that's after Maggie leaves him.
He's growing. She just said no eight times while you were talking.
I will say it sounds like he really does care for you and love you. He lit his leg on fire with Axe body spray.
I support you with silence.
Oh, I always thought people were doing other people when they took time apart.
Yeah, you're going to be fine. He's going to be celibate.
All right.
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Lex is like 20th chance.
No. Wow. That doesn't go well, Jeff.
Arrested immediately.
Was it four and seven he went back to? I thought it was three and five.
Dang.
Yeah.
Why was it like a one night stand?
My sister and her boyfriend at the time broke up for five days and then got back together and they got married. It was a very hard five days. In that time, he got a tattoo and joined the Navy. He was quick. He was dealing with some things. I don't know what happened. Six weeks for this guy. Should have been a red flag to your sister.
Oh, she dumped you. Okay.
Okay. What?
Okay. And so she wrote you what sounds like a letter, I'm guessing. Did you guys talk in person ever?
Are you sure she's not your landlord and trying to evict you?
Oh, wait. What?
I mean, that's got to be hard to take, man.
I mean, if she's writing a list of mean things, she's mad. She's mad mad.
No, no. I mean, is it one specific thing? Did you cheat on her or something?
Good.
We'll make flyers and put it on doors around the city.
Selfo? Singular plural masculine would be... Are you that worried about your masculinity that you think adding an IE to the end of a word is going to... All true?
I don't think that's grammatically correct at all, sir. I don't think you could find that on any dictionary.
Are you blind right now, or can you see?
Yeah. Yeah.
If they add up enough of them, yeah. If they add up enough. But one or two, no men would ever have a relationship. I mean, how many pages do we have here?
You sound like an annoying little brother. I would totally get along with you, brother.
Oh, no, you pulled your back. Yeah.
You're constantly trying to prove your manliness.
I think you're right.
So it's not that you learned anything from the letter she left.
I agree.
I'm just going to let you know. How does this work again? Does he ask her back out, or do we do it for him?
Okay.
Let's not use any of that sentence, that you need to relax, you need to calm down. Yeah, that's good advice. Just some hot advice there.
Gross.
Just trying to see if you can use the word selfie in a sentence.
Oh, you did?
I don't know that I like you talking for all of us, but okay.
Yeah, because then it's just going to be her getting angry at him all over again.
That is the most adult thing that Jeffrey's ever said.
Have you had any growth in the last six weeks, Landon?
See, that's good. I like that. That's a good sentiment, you know? That's really mature, man. You know, can we ask her real quick? Is she dating right now or is she just single, single? Have you heard? Well, she better not be dating. It's only been six weeks.
Yeah, I think after two weeks you're fine. You guys do not like your significant others. That's why we broke up with them.
Don't punch any ex-girlfriends.
Hi, Jessica.
You're like, that one in every 20 is going to be actually good. Yes. That one hits.
I don't laugh at all. I cry through the whole thing. All of us.
Or crush them because they don't know they're going to hear this.
Oh, boy. You're right. Even my old roommate probably knows more about me than my family.
Oh boy, you're right. Even my old roommate probably knows more about me than my family.
Yeah. And everybody said the same thing.
It's more of like, yeah.
Well, what is this top secret mission that her daughter is talking to her teacher about, though? Shouldn't we ask what that is?
Did you put another smirk on the end of the top secret mission test?
He doesn't get a smirk. We can always jump up to the purple devil emoji if you get real desperate.
What's the secret mission?
Your daughter?
Your daughter's going in and saying, ask my mom out?
Oh, God!
Misty, this must be so embarrassing.
She stole my whole game. Oh, my God. Misty, here's the good news, is that he wouldn't have said that to you if he wasn't interested.
The fact that he's bringing it up means that he feels like it's a safe thing to talk about with you.
Don't mention the daughter. Don't go too sexy with it.
Okay.
One thing that I know is good to get people to respond is, like, I don't even know what to say, dot, dot, dot.
Because then it puts it in his court.
Yeah. And also, you probably need to have a conversation with your daughter about what needs to stay at the dinner table and what gets shared with everybody in your life.
He doesn't know. The good news is, Misty, he asked you out, it sounds like.
She definitely will. That's a successful textual healing. If you're too shy to do a second date or anything else that involves phone-to-phone conversations, why don't you email us and we can help text your problems away. That's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Assuming that you are single, who in your life should you never ask out? Your mailman?
Knife's calves? Yeah. But you know he's been around the block a few times. Literally. Probably not. Your grandpa's best friend? Ew. Well, again, too experienced. You'd never be able to keep up.
Well, one of our listeners is thinking about crossing into the forbidden love zone because she had a moment in a school gymnasium and now she needs our help before this chance disappears forever.
We'll find out. You'll hear why it's going to be more than a little awkward in a brand new textual healing. That's coming up right after this.
textual healing textual of all the places that we want you to put your fingers maybe the number one place is on your phone yeah i don't think it's not for me anything you could have said it's broken jeffrey in the morning no we want you to run those digits all up and down your screen as we help you craft the perfect text message right here for our segment textual healing
Yeah, if you haven't heard it before, it's where we help listeners who are stuck and not sure what to write to somebody in their life. We'll work with you to come up with something passable. That is our vow to you.
That's always on the table for us. And which listener has emailed the show today requesting our gentle textual touch? Her name is Misty. So let's welcome her. Misty, welcome to Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
That sounds a lot better.
You're good, Misty. So tell us what made you email the show and how can we help heal you textually?
Brooke, don't cry. Don't cry. It happens to every child. I know.
What? Good or bad moment? What type of, yeah, describe this moment to us. And don't spare any details.
Is that what you mean? Enough with how Brooke alienates herself at her children's school. Let's talk more to Misty here.
Misty, give us, what's the lowdown with this teacher? Are we talking guy, girl, married, single? What's the situation?
I mean, your daughter would have got better grades in school. That's fine. If you want to avoid the awkwardness.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so what's this teacher's name? So the teacher's name is Nick. Nick, okay. So what do we write to Nick to put it out there that now that her daughter is going to be graduating from elementary school, she is open for business?
I think it's a good thought, Jose, but then she comes off as like the mom to the daughter and he's the teacher. It like solidifies that relationship. Exactly.
We need to bring out her sexual side. Yeah. Now, Brooke, you, I don't know.
Oh, no. Okay. If you like a restraining order put out against you, go with that one.
Well, hold on. Let's hear what Alexis would say. What would your mom say to one of your teachers when you were in school?
Okay, maybe you text Barb and ask, and we can get her advice on it while we brainstorm some more.
yeah i like i like the idea brooke of leaving it open-ended where it's like i have a big question to ask or like i have a crazy idea something that's going to get him interested and make him respond and we exactly we need him to respond so that would be perfect and then if it goes bad you could just say a class pizza party yeah exactly we need to keep the eject button on the table though no alexa we should have a backup plan an eject button ready how do you feel about that misty
Yeah. No other divorced moms in your school are thinking this way. So let's start typing something out.
Just I have a crazy idea, period.
Yeah. I've been thinking about something for a while and I have a crazy idea. Dot, dot, dot. Dot, dot, dot.
That's senior citizen grandma. So let's not do that.
Reinforcing emojis are a bad idea. So let's just go emoji-less on this one. Okay, got it. Should I send it?
I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding. You're going to be fine. We've ripped the Band-Aid off. Now we just have to wait and see if hot teacher Nick responds to you when we come back and continue with more textual healing. Try to score you a date right after this.
That's right. We're doing it right after this. If you're just joining us, we're in the middle of textual healing, talking to a mom whose daughter is about to graduate from elementary school. She's been divorced for about a year now and felt like she had a moment with her daughter's teacher while they were setting up decorations at school together.
Teacher's also single, and she has now come to us asking for help because her daughter isn't going to be going to school there soon once she graduates. And now she's trying to put out the vibe over text that she is interested.
I mean, Misty, that's the dream, right?
Yeah.
Especially teachers who always want to keep it professional whenever they're talking to parents. So there's a little bit of an extra barrier there. We've already sent one text that said, I've been thinking about something for a while and I have a crazy idea.
Maybe pizza parties are his love language, though, so we're still not out of the game. He's an elementary school guy after all.
Yeah. I'm taking my room mom clothes off right now.
Just one article of clothing. Okay. So maybe that's a good way to start. Actually, I'm taking my room mom hat off right now.
Yes. I actually like this. Okay. Gotcha.
What about just the smirk, maybe? Oh, like the wink? The little smirky guy, the squeaky smirk.
I'm a mom, but I'm a fun mom.
So there we go. So funny. Okay.
Oh my God.
No. You can.
How? You can say your finger slipped.
That's what I meant to say.
He's a teacher.
It's out there, basically. Or at least we're starting to put the vibe out there.
Oh, he's writing?
No, I don't say it unless I hear the word. Okay, okay.
Did he send it?
Okay. What does he say?
Okay, maybe the wires are getting crossed here. He's probably thinking of something different than the conversation we're trying to have with him.
What happened to all the pervy teachers from when I was growing up?
Bring them back.
Oh, so we're hating on your crush now.
It doesn't matter.
Carter, are you single or are you not? You didn't tell us that piece. What the heck?
Maya, have you met his maybe, maybe not girlfriend?
He has, like, the worst friend group ever.
Wait, hold on.
Did you say no to Rick then, Maya? Is that what you're saying?
Okay. I mean, Carter, you didn't do a very good job of explaining your feelings to her. I was nervous. Okay.
Is there anything you want to tell her now?
That's a good one. That's not bad. She's not saying no forever. She's just saying give her some space for right now. How does that feel to you, Carter?
She's not going for him. At least Rick was fully single when he asked.
Just keep her away from the rest of your friends. Yeah, bro.
Hey, you found it, the home of the Second Date Update. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And thanks for being here on the weekend with us. Seriously. Welcome to our home. And I know we have a lot of new listeners from all over the world since we've been in the top 10 charts of podcasts. Yes. Which is awesome. And if you don't know, we actually are a full radio show. I know.
Radio still exists and we are talking on it. Yeah. It does. And we do a brand new full hour episode every day on our main feed, Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. And we just thought, you know, y'all seem to like relationship drama. We're kind of experts on it. And we do a lot of other segments, including this one, Awkward Tuesday phone call.
Seriously. It's not necessarily always a romantic relationship with these.
Yeah.
So sit back and enjoy your awkward Tuesday phone call on Sunday. Totally makes sense. It starts right now.
Is that a real question? I mean, there's a lot of variables here.
It's a divorce? Wait, I didn't know there was a divorce. They're still married.
Just got a text from my mom. She is excited.
It's just when you emphasize make love instead of make love happen. It came off like my mind was some... Okay, now we're back.
Absolutely, I would.
Yeah, do it.
Oh, I love love. Let's do this, Carter.
Okay, vote of confidence right from the beginning. Dude, I'm so excited to hear about this.
Love shouldn't make you feel those things. Guilt, shame, like you're starting in a dark place.
Yeah.
I know. That's where we're going. All right. All right, so he's like a buddy who hangs out in the group of your friends.
Cool.
Whoa. That's a big statement, sir.
How do you know her? Just through him?
So for three years, I mean, you met this woman, and now you've gotten to know her, and your feelings, I'm guessing, have only deepened. Is that what you're saying?
They got engaged.
Oh, way better.
Do you I mean, do you know, was it a messy breakup or was it just like, hey, we tried this for three years. It's just not going to work.
I do think so, because if Eric cheated on her or did something terrible like that to end the relationship, then I don't think Eric gets a say anymore. That's my opinion. It's like, you screwed that up bad, man.
I do think he has a good point to call her first before he even brings it up with Eric. Because it's like getting a new job, right? You don't necessarily need to tell your old job until you know for sure the new job wants you. That's true.
I hope not.
He'd probably be friends with her.
That's a friend's old thing. Oh, my God. So we're going to call her?
And then next week we call Eric.
I know, but so worth it.
Oh, boy. I didn't get the vibe that he would say it like that. Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
What do you do, Brooke? I don't disagree. So here's the thing. I think because especially because you don't know how her relationship ended with your buddy, I think you just don't mention him at all. Like you say that, hey, you heard through the grapevine that she's single.
No. No.
Just pretend like you don't know anything about her past relationship because you really don't.
Dude, the worst thing that can happen is that you're right back to where you started. Where you like her and she doesn't like you.
We're rescuing you from that.
Yeah. Neither do we, honestly. He did not do a very good job of explaining it.
He's had a crush on you and wanted to ask you out. But what is this, Carter?
Vodka? He's like in character. He needs to eat some beef. Or is that your real life answer?
All right. When can they drop it?
All right. I think we've decided we're having salad topped with a little bit of Smirnoff on top.
So that's nice.
Good job, guys. Okay. Well done on your first topic. I felt the chemistry.
It was beautiful. There was compromise going on. They were listening to each other. Sounds like a great couple so far. And they were playful. Let's go to the next topic and your brand new accent.
Richie, your second accent is French. Save the bathroom break for after the show, okay, Richie? So you're going to be French for this next conversation. Meanwhile, Sandra, your accent is going to be French. Ooh, Southern Hick.
Wow.
Okay. French and Southern, a little Creole combination here, maybe?
Okay, now we have our accents. Your next topic to discuss is...
future children oh my god this is a conversation that tends to come up earlier and earlier in relationships richie you love the name raisin for a baby girl but sandra you are dead set on the name hannibal oh okay and you two are not seeing eye to eye you need to make your point and convince the other person why you think your name is better go ahead
That is possibly the worst French accent I've ever heard. He sounds more English than he did when he first started to call.
He's from Eastern France. That's what it is.
Oh, that's amazing.
This is funny and fun, guys. I love it.
I wish that we could let them argue about baby names for longer, but we are running out of time.
The hot new girl name of the year, but we're out of time. We have to decide once and for all. Do we think that we ship Sandra and Richie as a couple? Do we want them to meet up in real life?
Do they want to meet up in real life?
I don't know if they're going to have as much fun in real life as they would on our show, Jeff.
I mean, and it's also a little bit up to them.
A little bit.
You know, they have a choice, I guess. We'll let them choose a little. I would love to have a date with you. Okay. Richie wants to continue to use his French accent to talk about it.
Sandra, do you want to use an accent and say how you feel about Richie?
Okay.
Maybe Richie needs to keep his French accent when they meet up in person. Okay.
Yes. That wasn't your accent, Richie.
Oui, oui. Okay. And Sandra, how are you feeling? I say oui, oui, too.
That was a successful edition of Blind Love Is. We're going to set up Sandra and Richie on a real in-person date, and we're going to pay for it, too.
All right. I think he's exhausted his French, but make sure to text in to 78592 and tell us what you think about the wheel of accents. Did it add to the romance?
So anyway, that is Blind Love is. Tune in for the next edition soon. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Some people are shocked when they find that out.
Yeah, I mean, Bumble isn't what it used to be. The dentist is such a tease on the mouth stuff.
You want more gas? Oh, yeah, sure. And Madame Tussauds Wax Museum, it had potential. It was just more confusing than anything.
Which one's real? Oh, none of them.
Princess Diana was coming on to me.
No, dude, she's been gone.
The only place that's left to meet fun, available, non-wax-based singles is right here on our radio show. Wow. During a little segment called Blind Love Is. Two of our listeners will test the waters and see if they connect romantically when they speak to each other for the first time on our show. That's coming up right after this. They say love happens when you least expect it.
That could be true. I think I'm always expecting it.
And that quote isn't just talking about the honey bucket outside of Port Authority. Because I was not expecting what happened in there.
I don't think anybody was. Not mad either, though.
But it is also kind of unexpected to fall in love live on the radio with millions of strangers listening in. And that's what we're hoping happens today. With another edition of Blind Love Is. Yes! If you've never heard it before, we've got two single listeners who've emailed us to do other things on the show.
Sometimes they wanted a second date update that didn't work out or they wanted to be in a different dating segment. But they have agreed to meet for the very first time right here on our show.
Yeah, I'm not sure why.
It's funny because, yeah, that's like the scraps of the scraps.
But the whole thing is they've never seen each other. They don't know anything about each other beforehand. We're just putting them together to see if sparks fly just like they did in that port-a-potty.
Well, I think it's near its construction zone. Maybe that's what it was. But today we have two new people who are both open to meeting a total stranger. Their names are Sandra and Richie. Again, never spoken before this. This will be their first interaction. And we've encouraged them to try and ask each other fun questions.
That's the rude way to say it.
Well, let's not small talk amongst ourselves anymore. Let's just get right into this. We're going to put them together and find out if blind truly love is. All right, so here we go. I'm going to step away. We're all stepping away. I'm not stepping away.
I'm expecting love right now. I'm just going to be quiet.
Okay, I'll lean slightly back. Richie, are you there? Yeah, I'm here. All right, Sandra, are you on the line?
Perfect, okay. We're done talking. Richie, say hi to Sandra. Go ahead. Hey, Sandra.
Okay. Well, you know, I think we're going to step in here and just... At the parent dinner part? Yeah.
That was the reason I was worried that maybe it was going to get too steamy. The arousal was going a little bit too hot. And remember, this is a children's show, so let's pour some water on it.
Well, I'm sorry. What I meant was child-friendly. It's not just for kids.
But there was a lot going on in that conversation. At least personally, I noticed.
Let's review what we all learned today. Because I heard, I don't know about you, I heard lots of laughing on both ends.
Yeah, I will say there is that.
Laughter is good.
Yes. The conversation flowed. Didn't mean they agreed on everything, but there was a back and forth.
He didn't even want to live with him as a cat. Why didn't you keep your grandpa for the end of time and treat him well until he died? Hey, grandpas can be jerks too. Yeah.
Interesting lives both of them with some interesting answers, but at the end of the day they both seem like they were willing to compromise They were open-minded with each other.
I think so, too, but again, that's not up to us. We always leave it up to our listeners to text in 78592 if you want to hear more from Richie and Sandra and continue their conversation.
I don't think they should date. Well, sometimes...
They're the best truth tellers, but that's okay. Good point. We're going to keep them on hold. We'll review the text board, and when we come back, we'll see if we continue with Richie and Sandra. Maybe more hot cat and parrot talk.
Blind love is part two. We're in the middle of a very hot but still child-friendly edition of Blind Love Is. With Sandra and Richie, two of our listeners who've just met for the very first time on our show. And we found out they're both animal lovers. Sandra is very close with her pet parrot. Possibly a little too close.
Meanwhile, Richie has gone through three different cats in the last calendar year.
He did return two of them to the shelter, one of which he believed was inhabited by the spirit of his dead grandfather. So...
Pretty much par for the course for our show and our listeners. We did ask the audience to text in 78592. Do you feel the chemistry happening between these two? And should we continue? Because we do have other couples waiting on the line in case they say no.
The listeners this time said 61%. Yes, there could be something there between them.
And that means Sandra and Richie are sticking around for more of Blind Love Is, and we're adding a brand new wrinkle to the conversation going forward. And they don't know this yet. We're going to be bringing in the romantic Wheel of Accent. It means whatever foreign accent the wheel lands on, they have to use it to discuss the topic that they are given.
Ooh, la, la. I hope it's offensive.
They might both get the same accent. They may get different accents for the same conversation.
Let's spin it. This one's going to be for Richie. Let's spin that wheel.
Hey. It's a pretty big wheel.
Richie, you got Russian. Hey. Oh, man. All right. So we're hearing from Rush and Richie. And for Sandra, let's spin her wheel. Oh, no. Sandra, you get British.
That was pretty good.
That's already going well. So now the topic that you're both being given is discuss what type of meal you two want to go out and get for your hot date tonight.
Richie, you're going to start us off. Go ahead.
He's a drunk Russian, so that's why I said that.
Hey, Harry, man.
Need to let you know that you're on the radio right now with a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. This is called Awkward Tuesday Phone Call.
And Julia listens to us and asked for help today because she saw that interaction between you and your hairstylist.
But it's not genuine flirting.
I don't know. I could get behind that. What's this hairstylist place that you go to, Harry? Because I could lay that on.
It doesn't really matter what I believe. It's what Julia, this is her marriage.
You have no romantic interest in actually getting together with the star? No, no.
The economy is tough these days. I'm getting my 10%. Harry, your wife is clearly uncomfortable with this interaction. No matter how much money it saves, she doesn't like it. So, Julia, what would you like to see Harry do going forward? Ooh.
It's kind of like, what do you want from him at this point?
You don't want him to switch stylists. You're cool with him still going to her?
I don't need any more laughing gas. Anyway, Harry, are you comfortable? Are you able to change ever so slightly to make your wife happy?
Women can change a man. I didn't realize that.
Baby steps, okay?
All right.
All right. Well, you know what? I think we're in a better place now than we were when we started this phone call. Barely. Good luck to you two. Your marriage sounds perfect.
Thank you. All right.
Let's play a round of Is It Friendly or Flirty?
Our first contestant is Alexis. Alexis, can you tell me, does this sound friendly or flirty?
Even worse, Brooke said that at her child's PTA meeting, so it doesn't look great for her.
No, not in a flirty way. The thing is, one of our listeners overheard her husband saying something even more suspicious and cringy than that. Really? And now she's wondering if she's just being paranoid or if something actually weird is going on. You're going to hear it in your brand new Awkward Tuesday phone call. That's coming up.
Hey, how you doing? Control yourself. We're doing it right after this.
Ladies, if you're ever curious about what your husband or boyfriend is doing when he's not with you, just slash his tires and offer to give him a ride. Tire slashing is one of the pillars of a strong, healthy relationship. As long as he doesn't find out you're the one doing it.
Brooke, your husband's cars are constantly in trouble, and you're saying you're not the one behind it? Just so you could spend more time with him?
But now, our listener Julia didn't go that far as to slash her husband's tires.
But she did give him a ride recently and apparently found out something very interesting. What? So interesting. She needs our help. So, Julia, welcome to the show. Hi.
Tell us what's going on. Why'd you email us?
And you're freaking out with something involving your husband. What's his name?
Did he agree to let you drive him?
Okay, objectively a little strange.
That's what you want. It would feel good to have somebody who's really, really beautiful styling you. You don't want, like, Rumpelstiltskin coming in.
We're going to chop this off like a tree.
You have a point. I would think it's okay.
Oh, no. OK, this is.
Not to defend what they're doing at all, but sometimes stylists will be extra friendly and extra nice in order to get a better tip.
It would have been nicer if he had been like, hey, don't say nice things about me. I'm married, okay? Just cut my hair and shut up.
So this is what we're doing? Have you booked an appointment with that stylist to see if she's equally flirty and touchy with you?
But that's going to be step two in this process. Step one is getting our advice in a few minutes here before we let you make an awkward Tuesday phone call to your husband to ask what is going on between him and the hairstylist.
I mean, Brooke, that all depends on your advice and if it's actually good for once.
We'll find out when we call him and do your Awkward Tuesday phone call right after this.
After you get married, is there anybody that you are still allowed to flirt with? Brooke wanted me to ask that question. I'm not really sure why.
Would you get mad if you caught your husband flirting with your Alexa?
Some people may be okay. Definitely not with your hairstylist, though. That needs to be off limits.
Exactly.
Yeah, and that's why our listener Julia has reached out because she caught her husband flirting and laughing with the pretty woman cutting his hair, sent up some red flags for her. So she wants to confront him about it, but doesn't want to get too weird and defensive. So before we call Harry, Jose, what's your advice for her?
Right? Okay.
What do you think, Julia? Are you able to give the hairstylist a compliment?
A little late.
Where do you know her from?
Brooke does have the best lies to her significant others. Out of anybody that I know, she knows how to twist the truth. Is that helpful to you, Julia? Are you comfortable lying to your husband right now?
Hey, Neil. What's up, man? Yeah, sorry to interrupt your riveting conversation with your fiance, but you're on the radio right now.
Well, no. Yeah, for us too, bro.
We're here because Donna needed a little bit of help after she found that piece of paper with all the women's names on it and all the different dollar amounts. She thought something really shady was going on.
You're claiming that it's a way to have friends set you up with women. Donna, how are you feeling hearing all that?
I heard you use the word desperate, I think, when you were talking to her.
I had to pay somebody else to get you.
It's a successful match. Is that how it works, Neil?
All right, so it sounds like there isn't really a whole lot as shady as we thought going on with this list of women. It's just a matchmaking service on a piece of paper.
You two are getting married. Are you still Donna? This doesn't change anything in your mind, does it?
It's the number one most important piece of advice that you can give to a newly engaged couple.
If you need to keep a secret from your spouse, whatever you do, don't hide the evidence here.
Number one most important piece of advice.
Apparently somebody didn't get the memo and they chose the bad forbidden hiding spot in their home. And now there's significant others on the phone desperate for answers to what she discovered.
Honestly, doesn't look great for him. You're going to hear it in your brand new Awkward Tuesday phone call right after this.
Welcome back to Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Let's take a quick look at the scoreboard. In the last three years, we've had 20 engaged couples come on our show, and Brooke has miraculously stopped 17 of those from going through with it. Because of her advice.
That's a new record. And we are very excited to have another bride to be with us on the phone today. Will Brooke successfully implode her budding relationship?
Let's find out. Donna, welcome to the show.
Hopefully your bags are pre-packed to move out as soon as this conversation is over. But first, tell us about your awesome relationship. How can we ruin that for you?
A lot of what you said there made Alexis grimace. Late 30s, getting married. No, no, no.
Okay. What was it?
Which is already sus because who still uses paper nowadays? Yeah. Already, I'm concerned.
Yeah.
But I'm assuming there was something else about the paper that got you worried?
Well, I need to know, have you brought this up to your fiance yet or is this going to be the first time?
It makes me feel kind of gross, though.
paying married people to do stuff they're usually desperate enough to give it away for free you don't know what's going on Jeff none of us do I think my husband does take the payments not me there's always one money savvy one in the group I'm kidding we're kidding we're kidding we're kidding
Well, I asked, did you bring it up to him or is this totally? What?
What did he say when he eventually, I mean, you must have seen him since he left the room.
OK, so you brought up the amount of money paid to one of your friends, but you didn't tell him about the list that you found.
Okay, he doesn't even know that you have that sheet.
It's the secret fantasy football league that nobody's allowed to know about.
Okay, so we're running out of time on this segment here. So you want to call your, I'm assuming your fiancee coming up here. And what advice are you looking for from us?
Yes. We're going to come back, and we're going to have some advice for you. Let you make this call to your fiancé and find out if he committed the most atrocious of acts, lying about fantasy football.
It's also her account, so she's taking it from herself. Anyway, we'll have some advice when we do your Awkward Tuesday phone call right after this.
If you're just joining us, we've got some mystery fiancé drama going on this morning. Yeah. With one of our listeners, Donna, who just moved in with her new fiancé, Neil, after they got engaged. She was recently cleaning out a computer desk drawer at his place when she found a folded-up piece of paper filled with women's names and next to their names, different payments.
Which I know is all very normal. That stuff happens all the time.
But Donna decided to confront him about one of the payments, and he immediately acted nervous, kind of weird, left the room, and came back blaming it all on a fantasy football misunderstanding.
Donna is not buying any of that. She hasn't even told them about the big list of names that she found, but she might have to coming up here, depending on the advice that we have. Donna, are you ready to hear what Jose and Brooke give you? Yeah, I'm ready.
Sounds like she's shuffling around through more drawers right now. Donna, are you looking to find more pieces of paper?
Okay, Brooke, what advice do you have for Donna here?
It's just like Brooke breaks you up again. But this one is a little bit sadder.
Dawn, are you willing to go that far?
Plus, men love being told that they can't be trusted and you don't feel like you're being honest with them. We love hearing that from the girls.
Okay. We have some good advice for you. You can take a little bit of what you want, but we're going to dial your fiance, Neil here and let you make your awkward Tuesday phone call. You ready?
Remember, every guy deserves 10 to 20 mistakes before he gets in trouble. So here we go. You got to train us. I'm going to dial his number right now.
Try it again. Hello? Hey, it's me. Oh, hey. What's up, babe?
Are you saying that if he's willing to ditch his mom permanently?
Oh, man. Okay.
Yeah, this might be the time to bust out the Shrek if that was you.
Humor is the thing that brings everybody together. So, look, Lisa, the name of this segment is called Say Yes to the X. And now that you've had a couple minutes to get reacquainted with your ex, we're just wondering, would you be willing to take a chance, a leap of faith, and at least meet up with Art one more time? Maybe grab some coffee and hear him out.
Because I'm sure it's fun to be single and dating and hooking up with all these random hot guys having no responsibilities and just party 24-7.
But Art is the steady old wooden ship in the stormy seas of love.
Okay, you know what? Forget it. Art, I'm going to step away and let you take over. Say whatever you need to say to Lisa.
My gosh. Wait a minute. It was a bedroom thing. Lisa, did that sway you?
Oh, okay.
All right, man. I'm sorry. It's a say no to the X on this round.
There I go. I hate to hear you dejected like this. Look, we've never done this before, but we all really like you. And I'm going to give you one free say yes to the X segment. If you get into another relationship and she breaks up with you, you get a freebie on the house.
If there's one thing that we know about seduction, it's guys who do character impressions get all the ladies.
You gotta act like you get rejected a lot. That's why we were baffled, wondering how on earth does our listener, who does a flawless Shrek voice, get dumped by the love of his life over it?
We won't stand for that. Will we, team? No.
Alexis, when you look back at your dating life, who would you say is the one that got away?
And by got away, I mean he ditched you in the subway tunnels below London after you puked on his arsenal jersey.
Oh, yeah. A lot of those, huh?
Because for a lot of people, there is that one person, that one old flame from your past that just didn't work out back then for whatever reason. But you've always thought maybe there's a chance that we've both matured enough where we could be great together now.
You just need the chance. And today, we're giving that opportunity to someone to find out with another edition of Say Yes to the X.
One of our listeners reached out for help today. His name is Art. So, Art, welcome to the show. Hey, guys.
Oh, okay.
You know, I haven't been there, Art, but I can understand what you're going through.
I mean, those are just facts, Brooke.
No? A year seems kind of short, but yeah.
So was it just the misspelled words that caused the tension, or was there other stuff?
It is usually about six months between every new Shrek film. So that's about the amount of time it takes to reset.
Honestly we are only hearing one side of the story. This is what Art thinks broke them up. There may be something totally different that his girlfriend Lisa would have said.
Honestly, she may have loved the Shrek and just used it as an excuse.
Well, now are you in a better place? Can you spell definitely?
She wants to see that you've changed enough, probably, if you want her to take you back. The only thing that's changed is now I'm miserable.
Yes. Two miserables do make a happy in the math world.
I think so.
And we should find out what she's going to say, because as you know, Art, you gave Lisa's number to our producer. He got her on the phone and she just doesn't know that it's you waiting on the other line.
Or maybe she was fighting her own feelings because they were so strong, but... So she's there. She doesn't know who's on the other line. It's a mystery person to her. But I'm going to tell you some new information here. Apparently, she has been dating. Our producer found that out.
She's dating other people.
That's what you told our producer, but I don't know.
And his Shrek voice, I'm sure, is nowhere near as immaculate as yours, whoever they are. But it doesn't matter. We're going to see what happens.
Yeah, I'm not. To break it to you. Yeah. We're going to see what happens when we connect you with your ex-girlfriend, Lisa, when we do say yes to the ex coming up right after this.
All right. We'll say something nice during the break. And then when we come back, we'll continue. Say yes to the X. I got your back, Art. Yeah, bro. Thank you. It's happening right after this. If you're just joining us, we're in the middle of Say Yes to the X with our listener, Art.
Well, Art's been missing his ex-girlfriend, Lisa, after they split up about six months ago, hasn't fully gotten over it, and feels like he was a better, happier person when they were together, when she wasn't criticizing his spelling errors.
Yeah, at least they think they're trying to make you better. So he gave us Lisa's number, and our producer has reached out to her. She's agreed to be on the show with us. She's waiting on hold right now.
No, she just knows somebody is wanting to reach her and speak to her about something. Doesn't know who yet.
It could be worth a shot. Like, it might bring her back to that mental place in her life where she's like, oh, yeah.
I know. We finally have some upward momentum, so let's get Lisa on the phone here. Stay quiet until we call you on, all right? Okay. Okay, nice. Here we go. Let's punch her up. Hey, is this Lisa? Hey, Lisa.
Good morning. Yeah. So obviously, you know, you're on Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning and just want to thank you for being with us today.
Yeah, you should be. That's the right emotion. Because I don't know if you're familiar with us, but we do a lot of dating segments on this show. And we've got somebody very, very special waiting on the other line hoping to talk to you.
Do you have any guesses about who that might be?
Keep going. Maybe guess again. It's not Luke. Luke would never do anything this brave.
Okay. You're dating more people than I thought.
We'll give you a max of 30 more guesses.
I'm just going to tell you. It's a guy that you dated for a few years actually. His name's Art.
In a way, he is kind of new and improved since six months ago. Yeah, more mature. And since you're already on the phone, maybe you should just talk to him because he is waiting on the other line.
Very serious.
That's the saying.
Okay, so Dana, I guess ball's in your court here because it sounds like Alice has known about the past relationship and has no concerns about it.
It does not sound like she does. Dana, can you verbally acknowledge that you are not interested in Alice's husband? I am not interested in your husband. Beautiful. So the kids can be friends. Yeah. So when the birthday party happens, are you comfortable now going over there, Dana?
Okay. I think it's a good chance for you to go over to the house for the birthday party. You can be the better person, walk in there, write a note, and put it under the husband's pillow saying, just to be clear, I broke up with you. Just so it was straight.
Oh, okay. Sticky notes. They're nice and small. He won't see them until he goes to bed.
You have to sacrifice so much when you become a parent.
Your body, your sanity, your bathroom alone time.
But it's all worth it to see your child happy.
Unless a one in a million type of situation happens like it did to our listener today. And now she's thinking, maybe my child can be a little less happy as long as I don't have to deal with this anymore.
That's what she's thinking. But for the sake of her kid, she is going to put herself into a very uncomfortable spot. And we are going to try to help in your brand new Awkward Tuesday phone call right now. Imagine you accidentally run into somebody from your past. But not a good somebody.
Like your old second grade teacher or your cool babysitter who taught you how to delete your browser history before mom and dad died.
No, this is a person who you don't want to run into again. You really don't. And that actually happened to one of our listeners, Dana, who afterwards has emailed us for help because she does not know how to continue.
Dana, welcome to the show.
And also remind her the friends that you make when you're young, they really don't last very long. You're actually going to lose them all by adulthood. It's fine. Or I don't know, maybe deliver that a nicer way to her. Okay.
Like, full-built Lego sets on there?
You think it's less awkward to be like, oh, hey, nice to meet you. Our daughters are now friends. By the way, me and your husband used to be a thing.
I see you walk up to her and go, oh, he downgraded. And then walk away. That would be savage.
Is that what you did?
Okay.
Oh, boy.
Just kind of get it all out there. If I was you, I would move to another neighborhood and try again. How many exes can you have?
Oh, my God. So that's gonna be our job come up with some advice to give you Juicy we're gonna figure out how you can talk to your exes wife And just let her know that the two of you used to date, and now your kids are best friends.
Oh, yeah.
I'm so nervous. Of course, you want adult stuff to happen, Brooke. Anyway, let's try and do your Awkward Tuesday phone call right after this.
As a parent, you want your child to make new friends.
But worst case scenario is if you find out their new friend is the daughter of your old ex-boyfriend.
Thank you for clarifying because that's exactly what happened to our listener, Dana. And now the clock is ticking because there's a birthday party coming up where all of the adults and the parents are supposed to hang out and mingle with each other. And Dana is absolutely terrified of what to do.
Yeah, that is a good question, Dana. Like, what is the percentage that your ex knows this is already going on?
Those aren't good odds. Gosh. Okay, well, Brooke, she needs some advice before we call this other mom and basically lay it all out there for her. What do you think Dana needs to keep in mind?
Yeah, so casual, don't even wear pants for this conversation. Keep it laying back and chill.
Let's give it a try. Give us your best nonchalant like, oh, me and your husband used to date.
You sound a little bit excited about it.
We'll just take a little nugget from that and try and sprinkle it in.
Just do you. I think just be you, and you're going to be good. Oh, well, thank you.
Well, that was her fault for calling in.
So here we go. I'm going to dial the other mom and let you talk to her so you can let her know that you used to date her husband. Oh, my. Well, pray for me. I'll pray for me. OK, we will as I'm dialing the number now.
We'll jump in if we feel like you need help.
Yeah, that's the sound of an entire morning show being on this phone call with you because you're on the radio right now, Alice.
Oh, my God. We're Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. We're trying to help out Dana with this awkward conversation that she was trying to have with you about your daughters and the dating history between them.
Okay.
We were expecting you to be surprised by the news that Dana had a relationship in the past with your husband.
It does.
Can I request that we don't play the Britney Spears song?
It sounds funny as well.
That's what I was thinking.
He said, like, I wish I could see you. And that could also mean, though, I wish I could see you. It means I can't see you because I have a girlfriend. But why wouldn't he just say that? Because dudes still like to be hit on. Okay, good point.
Oh, okay.
I think he was just trying to be as respectful as he could, and he handled it the wrong way.
What are you saying, Brooke?
Let's not turn this into a situation with us. Gemma, clearly Tony is remorseful about what happened and how he behaved. I'm sure he's even told us next time he doesn't want to do communal tables.
So we'd like to help facilitate that second date and even pay for it if you're willing to give him another shot. What do you think, Gemma?
I cannot deal with the competition. I don't know if we've heard that one on the second date update before.
This is the most ridiculous response. I was not expecting that at all.
Convince her that you're not as attractive as she thinks you are.
Well, Tony, you started with one woman on a date, landed two more, and now you've ended up with zero because you're too attractive.
Second date update. All right, let's do a hypothetical here.
And Brooke, we're going to pretend that you're single. Is that single you?
You're hanging out at the bar. You're the same age that you are right now. I don't want to say it out loud. Just keep that in mind. But again, you're single and you see a cute guy cross the room.
Very attractive. Do you approach him or do you try to get him to notice you so that he walks over?
And what do you do?
You flash a bunch of money in his face and try to win him over like that.
I do think you forgot I said you're still your same age as now, but I'm going to let you get away with that one.
I bring it up because one of our listeners says that he got approached by not just one, but two different women. And he thinks he knows the secret on how that happened. So let's talk to him. Tony, welcome to the show. Hi, how are you guys doing?
She means lookalikes, not the other thing. Not the girls.
Tony, I apologize for Brooke, but... I know you went on a date recently. Who was it with?
Oh, how do you be clear about that? Like t-shirts matching? This is my date?
Oh, actually, yeah, that is worse.
In one time, I pretended to fall asleep during a date to get the message across that I wasn't interested.
In your mind, what do you think was happening there? I kind of, and I told her this too.
Did you bring it up with Gemma, though, about, like, sorry about those two girls? Like, I wasn't interested.
After the date or during?
What does she see? We'll get that from her when we reach out to her. But at least next time, probably need to avoid the shared long tables.
A lot of lessons to be learned, and hopefully we'll get some answers when we reach out to Gemma for you. And come back, try to get your second date update right after this.
One of our listeners, Tony, went out on a one-on-one date that suddenly turned into a three-on-one date. And the person who got excluded was Gemma, the woman that he actually came to the restaurant with. Because two random girls got up and sat down right next to Tony as soon as Gemma went off to the bathroom. So when she came back to the table, she was forced to sit across from everybody else.
And the whole rest of the night was kind of awkward from there.
Just to show Gemma that I'm actually interested in you. I don't really care about these two new girls.
Tony's thoughts on why this happened was actually pretty flattering towards Gemma, saying that she was so attractive that these other ladies must have been paying him attention, thinking, oh, wow, this guy's... With this gorgeous woman, he must have something pretty special, either downstairs or upstairs. Who knows? At least that's Tony's thoughts on the situation.
We need to get Gemma's thoughts and see if we can recover.
A little nervous, but I kind of am knowing what to expect, I think, at this point. Okay, that's how you're feeling upstairs.
I'm guessing also nervous.
Nerves going everywhere.
Left on read. We went from three women to zero now giving Tony attention.
Well, yeah, I know.
Oh. No, absolutely not.
It's pretty clear asking for their numbers in front of her.
Yeah, let's call Gemma. We'll see if she picks up, and hopefully we'll figure out what's going on, okay? All right, cool. Let's do it.
Hi, we're looking to talk to Gemma.
Hey. Oh. Thanks for picking up, Gemma. Hey, Gemma. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Weird.
Well, we're doing a segment called A Second Date Update. Not sure if you're familiar with that, but we're trying to help out one of our listeners get a hold of you after you went out on a date with him recently, a guy named Tony. Oh, my God.
Yeah, we did hear about some of the events that occurred at the Mexican place with the two girls coming to sit right next to Tony at the communal table while you went off to the bathroom.
Saved me.
Well, Tony says that he felt really bad about how it all went down. We're curious how you felt about the situation.
Okay.
But you said that you didn't blame that on him.
I don't know, $9? Right.
I hope you gave that restaurant a bad review.
Here's the deal. You actually sound pretty understanding about the whole situation. You're giving Tony a little bit of leeway on it. But we can maybe fix this because I do have to let you know, Tony is currently listening to this conversation on the other line waiting to talk to you.
I'm serious.
Tony, you there? Hi. Yeah, I am here.
Maybe you should say something to her.
Okay, okay. That was good, Tony. You can let her respond to that. Yeah. Take a breath.
Mm-hmm. Okay, come up with a better apology, Tony. Go ahead.
Is your grandma still alive? Because you never know. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Wow, who knew 50 bucks on a soulmate psychic picture could work not once, but twice. Talk about value, getting your money's worth.
That's great.
You really could. If you think about it, Zoe was just the breadcrumb that led Steven to his eventual destiny.
Ten. Perfect. Perfect. I mean, what if, I know we're all skeptical, but what if they really are meant to be? Would that second date update update be the most anticipated one we ever did on this show?
I heard it's a hot, and I like that. It truly is. And we can turn your life hot, too, if you email us for help with your dating life. We'll call that person who's not calling you back. Go and check out all of our Second Date podcasts, wherever you get yours, at Brooke and Jeffrey.
I saw something on Instagram recently that basically sums up what I think a lot of our listeners are feeling with the online dating apps. It was a guy who says, I think my favorite part of online dating is when you match with someone and you're talking and it's going great.
And three weeks later, someone somewhere loses interest, and you just never talk to them again, and you just keep doing that over and over and over until you're 90 and you're single and you die alone.
Brooke, aren't you upset that you got married and missed the peak era of dating apps?
Well, we have a guy on the phone who says he also has become pretty frustrated with the online dating experience. His name is Steven. So, Steven, welcome to the show, man.
Probably just closed his Tinder app right now before he got on. So it's not going so well for you, huh?
Okay. What does that mean?
Oh, that's like a sketch of them?
If you see them out in the world, you could just hold up this photo and be like, we're soulmates.
Brooke already doesn't believe in your soulmate before she even knows anything about it.
Well, we don't even know what the story is. So you actually signed up and did this? I did this 20 minutes later. I get the sketch email to me.
But she's not asking for a physical description of your perfect woman. She's trying to get to know you. Yeah, exactly. Okay.
So what did you think of the picture? She's very pretty.
Well, that's very lucky for him. I'm sure she draws a lot of ugly people for other people. But what did you do with the photo? I put it on my refrigerator. Oh. Okay.
I don't know.
Yeah, right.
Now you're thinking, Brooke. Okay.
Well, did anything come of it?
Yeah. Well, now you must feel the pressure on you. So what do you do?
Brooke, why aren't you awing yet? This is happening.
I am excited for you. And what did she say when you asked her to dance?
It's happening. So now you've opened the door for true love to step through. But the big question is, did you tell her about the soulmate photo that was sent to you? Oh.
I want to know what the caption was when you texted the photo. The caption was, isn't this crazy? This looks just like you.
Oh my God.
Or are you still waiting for a reply?
Oh, no.
So looking back on the events that unfolded, do you feel like maybe you shouldn't have sent her the picture? Maybe.
So at this point, where are you at now?
So did you call the psychic lady again and have a new picture drawn up?
Did we ever get the girl's name, by the way? Her name is Zoe.
Well, we're going to come back and call your soulmate Zoe and try and get you your second date update right after this.
You believe in love at first sight?
Okay, so yes from Jose and from the girls. What about love at first sketch? Because months ago, one of our listeners, Stephen, paid a professional psychic to draw him a photo of his future soulmate. Before he's ever met her, he hung it up on his fridge. And wouldn't you know, just a short while later, he ends up meeting a woman who looks just like that photo when he was at a wedding.
Her name was Zoe, and they danced and got to know each other. Everything was on the up and up until he got home and texted her the soulmate sketch picture. She really cooled off after that. It got me thinking, though, like, how could we help him when we get her on the phone? And maybe we could say that he drew the picture after he met you.
Just from memory, he's a really good artist, that it's not like a soulmate thing.
Yeah, that's your answer to everything. The man should apologize for what he did.
It just came to him in a moment of inspiration, you could say.
Sadly, though, Stephen is back on the dating apps now looking for older women and long distance stuff, whatever he can get because he's so dejected.
But we won't bring that up. I'm just saying his mind is still wondering, though, what about my soulmate Zoe? Isn't that right, Stephen? It's true. You've never forgotten about her.
Well, I'm glad that we're going in with a positive attitude on this.
Nobody in this room is going to believe in love except for me and Jose. So we're going to do our best. Let's call Zoe and see what she has to say.
Here we go. Hello. Two rings, she answered. I knew it. Zoe, thank you for answering the phone right now. This is Zoe, right?
Okay, perfect.
That was luck on that one. But Zoe, you're on the radio right now with a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Well, some might say it's fate that brought us to you today, but others would just say it's one of our listeners named Steven who asked us to call you.
Wow. Guys, that picture really worked, I guess. Yeah. So, Zoe, we're doing a segment here called the Second Date Update where we're trying to help Stephen get in touch with you again because it's been a while since you've chatted since the wedding.
I mean, maybe to you it's clear, to him it's not. We don't know what you're thinking.
Hold on. This is a lot. What we know is that you guys met at a wedding. You guys danced and had a good time. After the wedding, he texted you a photo that looked a lot like you.
Are you thinking that he went and like matched with her on purpose?
Okay, well, we don't know everything about how stuff happened the way that it happened. The only person who has the answers to that would be Stephen.
Because he didn't mention anything like this when we talked to him, but he is on the other line right now waiting to speak with you, Zoe. What? Why? What? That's how the segment works. Stephen, are you there? This is awkward. Sorry.
You didn't say you went just one generation up.
She believes in herself.
Okay, so you two need to talk about this clearly.
We exchanged the messages. Okay. Is a date going to happen between you and Zoe's mom? Is that on the books? Well, I didn't want to ruin things with Zoe and I. Oh, well, he's prioritizing you, Zoe. Isn't that nice?
I'm not going to make that mistake again. No way.
So you're saying you ship the relationship with your mom and Steven.
I don't know. I mean, I'm going to default to the love expert on the show, Alexis. What do you think that we should do in this situation?
That's perfect. Great idea.
Well, she probably should because soon Stephen could be your stepdad. We have to be around a Thanksgiving table together.
I mean, we would normally offer to send Stephen out with Zoe, but I guess Stephen will offer to send you out with Zoe's mom on the first date.
Zoe's already turned him down. He's a free agent. He can date whoever he wants.
I mean, secretly listening in, tapping people's phones, very mobster-like activity.
Uh-oh. You're going to make an offer she can't refuse, can't you?
Are you guys hearing this? Yeah.
And it's not just the finger point. You have to say bada bing, and that's when the kill comes in. but i do seriously need to make an offer to you i'm contractually obligated to do it holly i have to say we would love to send you out on another date with noah otherwise known as crazy legs yeah
I mean, this is your decision, Holly, so are you sure you want to turn a mobster down?
Noah, are you and I still good?
Why don't we go for a sail in the bay?
You know how to romance.
Whenever you're watching one of those hospital shows on TV, like ER or House or Grey's Anatomy, the doctors and nurses are always hooking up.
Because everyone who works there is attractive. The lighting's always dim. And is there anything sexier than changing a soiled bed sheet in front of your co-worker? I'm looking at Brooke right now, and her shirt almost flew off when I said soiled bed sheet.
So I was not surprised in the least when one of our listeners reached out saying he met his date when he was at the hospital. So let's get the story from Noah. Noah, what's up, man? Hey guys, how's it going?
Why did your head go to that?
And then you unplugged the EKG machine just at that moment. That'd be terrible. Yeah. Did it work? That's the question.
All right. You got the date. So where do you go?
It sounded actually kind of fun.
Oh, that's a classic move. That's a cute one.
Did she respond well to the kiss?
You're calling his date dumb, is what you're saying.
I think if you point at your cheek after you kiss someone and go, your turn, they would hopefully understand what you mean by that. Hold on, hold on.
Okay, we're about to give her a call, but first I think maybe you should reach out to your grandma and tell her you may need to get sick again just in case we need to do an in-person visit. Before we do that, though, we're going to call Holly and get your second date update right after this, all right? Okay, sounds good. All right, man, hold on.
I think we were all impressed with Noah and his first date.
Even a little bit jealous, honestly. For sure. Because the only one of us who's ever crashed a wedding before is Alexis, and that was with her car.
Which didn't turn out quite as fun.
Noah and Holly snuck into a wedding that was happening on the beach where they were at and they weren't there long They just stole some cookies and took a photo in the photo booth And that's where Noah also took a little bit of a risk with a rogue kiss cheek on the third photo Which I mean, I don't think that's crossing any lines.
So we don't know what the exact reason is, but we're going to call Holly right now and try and figure out the reason why. Noah, are you ready to do this? Any final thoughts before we make the call?
Totally. Before we dial, do you and me, Noah, want to do like a little cheek kiss for good luck? No. sure why not yeah all right count of three or what i'll go first okay okay now you do me well let's find out literally jeff just wiped his mouth i'm not gonna clean my face for a whole week now i'm gonna dial holly let's see what she has to say here we go okay hello hey is this holly
Hey, Holly, my name is Jeff from a morning show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
You know, my words are not doing too good.
That's Brooke, Jose, Alexis. And we're all calling because we're interested to know a little bit more about your dating life.
Not a prank call.
No, this is a segment we do called the Second Date Update, and one of our listeners went out with you recently named Noah.
Yeah, he told us about the whole experience, and on our end, it all sounded pretty fun and pretty innocent. We want to get what your side of the story was. Did you have a good time with him?
Mixed vibes.
Yeah, that was Brooke's read on it, and she's notoriously into bad things. So what was your take?
Oh, yeah.
So it sounds like the cheat kiss kind of just threw everything off for you. And after that, you weren't interested.
A psychic aunt?
They can do that? You can just read off of a photo?
That is.
I want to know what the killer feels about it because I need to tell you, Holly, past life killer's on the other line listening and he wants to talk to you.
Yeah, he is. Hey.
Noah, you're saying that you weren't a mobster in a past life?
Yeah. That's hard for me to believe, man.
I mean, that's what a mobster would do. Deny, deny, deny.
Noah, how would you know? How would you know? Her aunt read your picture, dude.
You would be the worst person to take a bullet.
You're never going to win, brother. You may want to try to be mean right now.
Oh, you're backing out. You're saying no date. It's probably better. She's going to say no anyway.
All right.
I go to bed every night and I just stream it on 5,000 different laptops. Oh, you're the one that's doing it.
I'm sorry, guys, but I'm tired of those ratings.
Yes.
Because mine would be like video game club where you sit and don't move. Hey, they usually end at a bar. That's actually kind of fun, though.
Cool.
And there's actually like hotties there.
Oh, that's why. That is strange. Jose just made the case. It is true.
Me and my dad bought bros are fine.
Huh? Smart.
And they cried. I'm kidding.
Mugs. A bunch of steins or something?
Wow. You saved her life. That's the universe, dude. You were put in a situation to protect her, and you did, bro. Good job.
Oh. Cute. That's a hero kiss. You don't just make out.
Sorry, no more physical activity. Holding these cows in.
I worked out hard today.
She said ew.
Oh, he said hi.
I love how it's gross.
That's so, I mean, devious, cunning.
I'm shocked. I didn't see this coming because, I mean, what is the history of the guitar? Whose guitar is it? It's my ex's, yeah.
Some women hold, like, onto the sweaters from their ex-boyfriends and cry. He holds onto his ex-girlfriend's guitar and cries into it.
And you're not even mad hearing about this, like, elaborate plan to get the guitar back out from under your nose.
Well, he doesn't. Sounds like he doesn't play. Yeah, it's more his girlfriend's thing. But is there still, like, was there ever a romantic connection between you two, Megan and Michael?
Isn't that the goal of this call?
I'm happy I didn't make a move. So, okay. Well, clearly there's no connection between the two of you, but Megan, Michael did want to get some dating advice out of this segment. Do you have any that you want to share with him to maybe help him out going forward?
Just assume every girl you meet wants to steal something from you.
Your first date, Michael, back in the dating world after a year. It's a setup to get your guitar out of your apartment. Lesson learned here. Yeah.
not sure if you remember this but a few months ago one of our listeners named michael did an awkward tuesday phone call because he had this female friend who was complaining to him about how lonely she was all the time yeah so he wanted to convince his best friend to date her just to get miss sad face out of his hair i do remember this i can't remember how it turned out but i remember it doesn't really matter i guess we did a good enough job helping him with that situation that michael now trusts us completely
So much so that almost a year later, he wants us to do a second date update for him. Michael, it's good to have you back on the show, dude. Hey, it's great to be back. Thanks for having me.
It is our honor and privilege to be able to assist you with your love life today, Michael. So tell us what's going on.
It's so romantic at the grocery store, especially when they have the thunder over by the produce section. Oh! Set in the mood in the rainstorm?
One hand on the pepper spray. All right.
Wow. Well, that must make you feel really confident after, like you said, you went through that tough breakup for like a year ago. Oh, yeah. Finally going out into the world and meeting somebody that you connect with instantly.
I'm going to be trying. Did it lead to an actual date? It did. Yeah. Wow.
Look how jaded we all are in this room. Like, you really met again? Oh, my God. No way.
She stole Brooke's line. I think it's a very good sign. So how did it go?
Okay, this isn't like Brooke's hangout.
I really would. You literally dip out.
It's a little concerning, though. Did you reach out to her afterwards?
But it's weird that there's no explanation for why. Yeah, exactly. After she invited herself to hang out at your apartment?
If there's something wrong that you're doing, it's good to know it up ahead of time. So let's come back. We're going to call Megan for you, Michael. Oh, so weird. Brooke's husband and Brooke's best friend's name. Don't think about that when we do our next call here.
She's going to be mad.
Second date update right after this. Hold on.
It was the comeback after the romantic setback, followed by a slight drawback. Because our listener Michael finally got back into the dating game after going through a tough breakup about a year ago. Didn't find his match online, though. Found her in the grocery store, holding two big cantaloupes. That's Jose's dream of how they met.
But her name was Megan, and eventually they arranged a little Netflix and chill night back at Michael's apartment, which went really well.
Things kind of fell apart, though, when she said she had to grab something from her car and never returned.
Was the had to grab something from the car thing a lie Alexis says yes from experience, but we don't know that Yes, we do. We don't know anything for sure. We do know. It's not a good sign She didn't want to be there Okay, that would mean that she lied.
But again, we don't know. We just know it's not a good sign. Also not a good sign. Megan texted him days later confirming it's not going to work.
We need to be impartial people in the middle here. Isn't that right, Michael?
It's sweet that you think you can get better. Yeah. Okay. Well, we're all going to try our best for you here, Michael. Let's call Megan for you and see if she answers and what she has to say. Here we go.
Hi. We're looking to talk with Megan.
I don't know if you realize you're on the radio right now with a show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
are you serious yes welcome to the show megan oh hi guys i guess thanks for answering okay i don't know how to deal with this positivity on the other end we don't normally get this we've got two positive people that we've talked to today that's true um you don't know this megan but earlier the other positive person we spoke to was a guy named michael that you went on a date with are you serious yes yeah we
Well, because we're doing something called a second date update. We're trying to help him figure out if when you two hung out and did Netflix over at his apartment, if something went wrong during that night.
Well, we don't know what the problem was, if it was on your end, if it was something he did.
We're on a limited time, so we need to have you believe sooner. So start to believe you're on the radio now.
We're really just trying to help out Michael because he's really concerned feeling like he did something wrong on the date.
Alexis says that on the first date, too. I know that.
I promise.
Yeah. He said you guys like randomly kept bumping into each other kind of multiple times in the store.
At least that's what she says. Is this what really happens at book club? You don't read any books?
And then you plot revenge against all of your exes for the rest of the time?
I know that's like another 20-minute long story that we don't need to get into.
The important thing that we need to get to here, Megan, is letting you know that Michael is actually on the other line right now listening to this conversation.
Well, it kind of ruins your plan.
Michael, are you hearing this? Yeah. I do not know what to say right now.
Godfather, we need you. They'll make an offer. He was unprepared. Olive Garden. No, this is not it. Sounded like the Godfather having a stroke, Jeff. We've got all the breadsticks that you can put in your mouth if you're willing to go out. It's always one more time and that we on our tab.
Don't date him. Because if you do, we're going to have to break some kneecaps. Hey, whoa. That got too dark. Too quick, Jeff.
It's Jeffrey from the second date update. I'm going to make you an offer you can't refuse.
Jeffrey.
you pay the nice woman or we can make it real uncomfortable for you and send you a gift card to applebee's with half of the balance gone kaput oh my god it's actually the worst thing that we could do in this situation give a half used gift card to somebody it's just disrespectful do you have an old italian monster living inside your body is that actually good i'm not gonna tell you where my body is
He showed you disrespect, and it's not okay.
Okay. Can you see, like, her perspective? I mean, it sounds like, Marcus, maybe you have a little bit of bad experiences in the past.
Not to see her children, to see Marcus again.
Well, Marcus, you've clearly got a little bit of PSD from your past experiences with women.
It sounds like Sasha did not do this on purpose, and you yourself said that you would have gone out with her had it not been for the text and the showing up to the apartment craziness. So what we would like to do before we start exchanging addresses is offer to send you guys out on a date that we would pay for, and then you can bring the earrings and give them back to her in person.
Clean slate, no dino outfits.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, your little brother can come along if that's what you're asking.
Okay, we will pay to have them diamond tested for validity, and then we'll send them back over to Sasha's place.
Okay. Well, no love connection, but at least it sounds like we recovered the jewelry that she wanted. Okay.
I see AI as an incredible co-pilot. You may use different tools or toys to get the work done, but AI is just the latest flavor of that. You're still the judge of what good looks like.
Yeah, that too.
Are you guys up to Mission Impossible with me and a listener today? No.
Her name is Sasha. And if this call doesn't go well, we might have to wear dark outfits and black hats.
Brooke, do you have any peanut butter you want to smear all over your face?
Because we might need to camo and go covert here. Peanut butter camo. Yes, because we could be on a reconnaissance mission today that all started with the first date, which ended up at a guy's place.
So we're going to find out first. Let's welcome Sasha to the show. Sasha, how you doing?
We're ready for action. So start at the beginning, Sasha. Tell us what happened with this guy.
Well, she's also supposed to be in the T-Rex costume, too.
This is some hot Jurassic action that we're about to get into. So how did it go?
Depends on how much you've drunk, too.
Okay. So that's how you end up back at Marcus's apartment.
Okay.
So where are you at with Marcus now?
Guy or girl?
Well, you have been drinking for like many, many hours in a dinosaur costume and after that, too. That's true.
Yeah, probably wrong city even. Who knows?
So, okay, now we're going to call Marcus for you and try and help you get your earrings back. Do you want a date, too?
We don't even know if that was his house.
We have a lot of questions to ask this guy once we get him on the phone. We're going to come back and try and get you your second date update right after this.
If you're just joining us for the Second Date Update, we have two objectives today. The main objective, recovering some precious belongings. We're putting love on the back seat just for the beginning because we need to help Sasha get her earrings back.
But she left them at a guy named Marcus's apartment after they hung out all night. And the weird part was she texted him to get them back. He didn't respond to her. So she actually physically went to his place the next day. And a different guy answered his door and said, I don't know, Marcus. Marcus doesn't live here.
Is it possible you scared him completely out of his own building, Sasha? I doubt that.
Right? She had said she was drinking a lot, so we don't even know if it was the right place that she went back to.
A lot of things to answer. So let's just call Marcus, if this actually is Marcus's number, and see what he has to say. Here we go.
Hey, we're looking for Marcus.
We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
You can tell by the tone of my co-host's voice how fun we are.
yeah good morning everyone yeah good morning sorry to like barge in on your life like this but we're doing something called the second date update and we're trying to help wait wait wait i'm sorry i'm sorry what organization is this we're called brooke and jeffrey in the morning and okay we're trying to help out one of our listeners named sasha that you actually went on a date with yeah sasha sasha yeah yeah drinking with dinos right
We heard there were some positives and some also negatives from the date because Sasha said that she left her earrings at your apartment and texted you about it and you never responded.
What did you call it? A Cinderella act? Yeah, I'm sorry. Were you there?
No, why would you know that? How do you know that?
What? Okay, she told us that she actually went back to get the earrings, but somebody else answered the door.
Exactly.
You think that she's doing it on purpose just to try and, like, get back into your life and trying to get another date with you?
Oh. We don't really know what the intentions were behind it the only thing we can do at this point is bring Sasha on the phone right now But the truth is she's been secretly listening on the other line waiting to talk to you well It wasn't open. So what else do you call it Sasha you there?
Oh, man, what are you pulling this now?
I think he would have appreciated if you had warned him that you were going to show up to his apartment uninvited.
Clearly, Marcus was scared of her.
Listen, she was in the junk and stupor the whole time. She was drunk.
You're the one that fell off the rock wall, Marcus, okay? Are you serious?
Wait, before we started, like, exchanging addresses with each other, Sasha, Marcus is accusing you of leaving the earrings there on purpose, trying to Cinderella him, to meet, like, trying to make sure you meet up with him again.
You're saying no.
Marcus, you weren't even worth Cinderella-ing.
I'd probably already be friends with him. Well, the real snatching that we're interested in is the snatching of hearts and love. Oh, God.
The reason that we called you, Hannah, is because Richard wants to go out with you again. Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord.
I want you guys to go out again. And I think the only appropriate way to decide this is by doing rock, paper, scissors. And if you both have the same exact thing, then you know that it's meant to be, and you can go out.
Yes.
I will count to three on three. Both shout out the name of what you're throwing. This is good for radio. It is good for radio, and this is the one time that we're going to do this. All right. Unless it works, and then we're going to do rock, paper, scissors on the tens. Every single one. Every single one. So here we go. Both ready? One, two, three.
At least we started with rock, paper, scissors, and we ended that way.
And we solved the local crime in the meantime, too. Shifty eyes and something under the jacket. Keep a lookout.
If you see a cute somebody out in the wild, I can tell you what animals would do.
That's just how love works in the animal world.
With humans, it's a little bit of a different story. In general, a lot of guys get too scared to approach if they spot an attractive woman out in the wild.
rip a guy's head off right after you're done with us yeah that's right that's the thing the fear tends to take over but one of our listeners says he found a way to conquer that fear by using a game apparently it's interesting yeah usually women don't like it when you play games i don't know how it works so let's welcome richard to the show richard how you doing man good how you doing guys oh man are you a happy guy richard coming in yeah what's this like game or strategy that you use when you approach women
okay that's actually kind of smart because like either way either way one of you has to approach and like make a move this is like what i do with my little brother when someone has to pick something up like get off the couch you know okay that's interesting i guess that's fun too so that okay did that happen to you recently
The ladies in this room just both swooned at the same time.
So were you able to get her number off of that?
You did a TV interview in the middle of your day? I did. Wow.
I don't think the local TV news stations would appreciate like a comedian coming on and joking about the crime in their city. They really should. Ratings would go up.
OK, so you said you ended with a long hug and that seems pretty good. What's happened since then? Not a lot.
I need you to come with me and my buddy to the park. All right, so have you spoken to her at all since then? No, it's been silent, like no communication back.
I know.
Well, I'm just happy that we have a famous person on the phone with us now to boost the ratings of this Second Date Update. That's right. We're going to come back and call Hannah for you right after this. Second Date Update. Who would have thought a little rock, scissors, paper, RSP, could lead to some TLC?
And even HPV.
That didn't happen, though, because they only hugged. They just hugged at the end of the day. Too many weird acronyms coming together there, but I bring it up.
I don't think so. I only bring it up because that's how our listener Richard met Hannah. A game of rock, paper, scissors led to a fancy dinner date that eventually led to a TV interview with the local news.
And somewhere along the way, it must have gotten off the tracks because now he's reaching out to us for help.
I'm nervous because we're not just calling one famous person. We're possibly calling two famous people. Oh, wow. Pressure is on. Here we go. Let's see if Hannah picks up.
Hi, we're looking to speak with Hannah.
This is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Is this Hannah?
Hi, Hannah. We're doing something on our show. It's a segment called A Second Date Update. Hi, Hannah.
You're probably disappointed that this isn't like a crime podcast.
We heard about it because a guy that you went out with recently, Richard, told us about your date. Did you just say, ugh?
Okay. Well, we were calling to try and ask you some questions to figure out how you felt about Richard and how you felt about the date. Yeah. Because he told us a lot about it.
Like, I can just tell you what we know is you met him in a park. You must have thought he was pretty charming because you went out to dinner with him at a nice restaurant and said you had a great time. And you even got interviewed by the local news. right after it was done.
That makes sense. But we're just trying to help get Richard some answers here because he's a little bit confused why there hasn't been a second meetup.
He doesn't shy away from that.
Is that a turnoff to you? Like he's kind of fame hungry?
What do you mean? Okay.
This purse snatcher person?
Well, I know that it was awkward when he pulled you into the TV interview. So now we're going to even it out and make it awkward by pulling him into this phone interview.
Oh, my God. Because he's on the other line wanting to talk to you.
Was he holding a purse?
All right. Well, this is clearly irresponsible on Richard's part.
I would say it's shared responsibility.
Okay. I don't know if Jeremy knew that.
Jeremy, do you feel like you maybe gave off some murdery vibes when you matched with her online?
You thought I was going to murder you in the sushi restaurant? Well, maybe not in the restaurant, but maybe in the parking lot.
Yeah, they need the loyalty points.
It's so romantic at this point. I just have to ask if you two would like to go out on another date. Moms and parents all invited. And Jeremy, we're going to pay for it this time.
What do you think, Jeremy?
I'm done.
Their loyalty points are running low, though, so who's going to pay for that?
Now you're running a scam on us.
Most women have their own unwritten rules they set down for a first date. Now, Alexis might not agree, because these rules I found online were written by men.
Number one, always be willing to pay for half. Should I stop there or do you want me to keep going? I didn't even get to don't drink too much. The best date's a sober date. Oh, yeah.
Anyway, we have a woman on the phone named Katrina who has her own unwritten rule for dates that she brings someone along on her first one every time. Wow. Really? Katrina, welcome to the show.
Seriously. Well, if you would pay for half of the meal, then people would be more than excited to hang out with you.
There you go. But we want to learn about you and your dating life, Katrina. So tell us, who do you like to bring along on your dates with you? Like a friend?
You need to make sure your form is right on the kiss, too. So make sure mom weighs in.
Really? Brooke doesn't want to let her children leave the house until they're 30 years old.
Brooke is definitely going to be on the first dates with both of her children.
We're being so judgy here. We haven't even heard the date yet. Tell us about what you guys did and this guy that you went out with.
We're going to try not to judge. Keep going. You met him online.
Well, some guys do need that. They need that extra push to be like, hey, ask me out already.
I know we do this segment to find out what things you love and what things you don't, Brooke. But we got to figure out what Katrina did for her date.
So, Katrina, where did you and your mom go?
Yeah, the date would probably leave you for your mom, because she's really cool.
But it sounds like if you only checked in with your mom once, the date must have been going pretty well.
Her camera's out and everything.
Maybe it was weird for him because his dad was also there watching. He's posted up by the jukebox. Oh, my God. The mom's over by the bar.
The grandparents are in the car outside. It's just everybody's watching. This is literally a family tree.
Honestly, I really hope not, but maybe it will when we come back. We'll call Jeremy for you and try and get your second date update right after this. Thank you. Hold on.
If you're just joining us for the second date update, we're on the phone with Katrina, whose first date would be an absolute nightmare for most of us in this room. But for her, it's totally normal to bring along her mom as the third wheel. Just make sure that everything's going right. That's right. As far as we can tell, her date Jeremy did not know that her mom was even there.
The whole time, watching, peeping in on their first kiss. Katrina, did you hold your finger up to give mom a countdown so that she knew the kiss was about to happen? It would have been kind of romantic.
But after the date, your mom did approve of him.
It's got a nice ring to it.
I'm sure she's watching through one of the windows of the studio here, so we'll be good. She's not listening. I'm going to dial him right now. Let's do it. Hello? Hey, is this Jeremy? Yeah, who's this? We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Hi.
You're quite the talker.
Maybe, but hopefully we can because we're trying to help out one of our listeners with this segment we're doing called the Second Date Update. Basically, you went out with a girl named Katrina the other night to a sushi restaurant, and we're trying to kind of pick your brain about it.
Can you please elaborate? Because we have no idea what you're talking about.
It was a date, right?
Yeah, you should at a sushi restaurant. Yeah, okay.
Yeah, that's really considerate of her. See, Alexis, it is a nice thing. Guys appreciate that and like that about women.
Consider it for next time.
Oh, is that what happens?
So sorry. Jeremy, keep going.
It's weird that she would get all the benefits from their meal together that he paid for.
Well, how much was it? How much was the bill that you paid?
I think it was closer to like 200 bucks.
Alexis is loving this. You're creating a little monster in our studio.
It is weird that none of that came up when we talked to her.
Yeah, she just takes money from guys and gets the rewards for herself.
Okay, we need to clear this up and actually have Katrina on the line. She is on the phone already, by the way, Jeremy, wanting to talk to you.
That's how this segment works. We have them listening quietly and then have them jump in.
I guess I do see Brooke's point. You can be running a tighter scam than this.
You're taking weeks to get them in?
Maybe you need to, like, streamline this system.
Maybe you have to buy some gift cards, too, next time you're there.
So he paid for several meals for you and your mom. That's kind of nice. You bought her mom dinner.
Well, it is. Because how could you ever, like, be invested enough to find out if you were interested in someone if you were just constantly thinking of the next person you were going to see?
That's true. It's contradictory to what your advice always is. You said get it in as many times as possible before it's gone forever.
It's not what I've said, but I think that dating lots of people is great. It's just like if you're going to ask someone to give you their evening, you also have to invest not just being there, but like your presence. Like how can you be present? Well said, Brooke.
You should have brought her presence, dude.
I mean, that's how you see it, Jennifer. But clearly, Joshua sees it a different way. Right, Josh? I don't want to mess that up.
Not that night, but the next five nights she stacks.
Brooke, you're supposed to be on my side.
You said dumb things on a date. I don't know what to tell you. I mean, the thing is, Joshua, she's on the phone with us. She's put in a lot of effort to see you again. So, I mean, maybe that's proof enough that she's over her old ways. Yeah.
And that's why I would like to ask you, Joshua, if you'd be willing to meet up with Jennifer one more time, and we would pay for it. And the next date, and the next date, and all the stacked dates after that.
Just you, though. No, I got the ick. I'm sorry.
You got the ick. You got the ick. Oh, I can't fix that.
Oh, that's why she gets stacked.
That's not true anymore.
You said you didn't want to do that anymore.
Yes. That'll make it better. That's where true happiness comes from.
All right, so no second date there. And Jennifer has hung up. She's not on the line with us anymore. But Jennifer, if you're listening out there, I just want to say, I know you're probably disappointed with one person on this show who didn't support you. But the rest of us here have your back.
What? I know you're looking at me, Jeff. I'm not looking or saying. Listen, it's not my fault. She's like, I just really miss dating lots of men at the same night. I mean, no one would feel special if you said that to them.
But you understand where she's coming from, right, Brooke? You miss it, Brooke.
I have never had multiple dates in one night.
Wow.
I could not pull that off.
Brooke Unstackable is the definition we're going with.
The good news is we've got dozens of guys on the text board who are DTS and down to stack whenever. So, Jennifer, you stay positive. Some Fs, too. Yeah, we don't like those.
That's weird. It'll happen for you, Jen. And if you're into stacking videos, you can always watch a bunch of ours on YouTube. Got all of our second date updates on there. You can like, share and subscribe. All of it at Brooke and Jeffrey.
You found it, the home of the Second Date Update. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, and we've got a brand new one for you today.
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People steal our old stuff all the time. I almost said a cuss word there, but I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it. Yeah, but that's fine. I mean, if it helps you find the OG, then thanks for being here. Yeah. Whatever works. Yeah, whatever works. All right. And what works right now is getting the show started. Let's go.
Second date update. Is it ever a good idea to talk about your other dates while you're on a date?
No. I mean, I don't know. If you're like commiserating and sharing funny stories back and forth. Yeah, that's the convo.
I would say the short answer is no. The longer answer, absolutely not. No. Unless you plan to be on with us, because we love to hear the dirt. And I'm just thankful that Jennifer, our listener, is on the phone with us today, because apparently she talked about her other dates on her date.
Jennifer, I disagree. I admire your class. Welcome to the show.
Thank you.
You are welcome.
I mean, it's not like she's talking about her ex-boyfriend that she's still in love with, right, Jennifer? We don't know. That's why I'm asking, right, Jennifer?
Okay. Well, who are you sharing these stories with? What's this guy's name?
Okay.
Oh, is that still around? We haven't heard of that one in a while.
I know about the bangle and the candle app, but the coffee one is a different one.
Okay.
You know, actually, I've heard that guys who have dogs in their photos get 90% more matches.
That makes sense.
I need your attention here. The whole point is that you can actually keep something alive and care for something outside of yourself. That's the attractive point of it.
Women are not going to be able to tell if it's your dog and how well it's taken care of as long as it's in the photo. Just Photoshop one in.
All we're trying to do is accomplish.
Could you determine his dog's health from the photo, Jennifer?
See, this is what you're talking about right here.
I see what you're saying.
Now take us to the date with Joshua.
Is there a reason for that?
You like certain tables. You like all the things.
Oh, no.
Did that, like, throw the night off? Did it make you upset?
Oh, no.
I know, and there's only two of you. It's like, can't you squeeze us in somewhere? We'll sit at the end of somebody else's table. No big deal. Literally make a table for us. Yes.
We'll eat in the alley back behind the restaurant on the dumpster.
If I get the good food, Jeff, absolutely.
Totally.
So you lumped this experience as to one of the many bad date experiences that you've gone on?
I'm sorry, $2, bro?
Okay.
Okay, so you shared stories like that with him. Did he share stories back with you? Joshua did?
I actually think that's some nice feedback.
So, okay, now this is a way to be like, you're actually way better than a lot of the dates that I go on. It's supposed to make him feel good.
And anytime you have like a shared experience, whether it's like a bad day or anything, it can bring you closer to somebody. Totally.
But this wasn't a bad day.
No, I know. But they're both commiserating over the same thing. Oh, OK.
Yes. They had to adapt. Gotcha. So how long did this go on for?
even attempt to do anything else okay like suggest a bar or something yeah maybe he's just playing it cool you know like sometimes if you go out on top you end it on a high note yeah it obviously leaves you wanting more so he did something right yeah he's playing it so cool that he's not even calling her back anymore so i guess that is playing it cold oh that is really freezing we're beyond the cool part we just want to help you figure out what happened okay jennifer maybe the burger was bad that he ate
That's all it is. It was a street burger.
Yeah, but it is risky. So let's just call him and we'll get your second date update right after this. Second date update. Our listener Jennifer is the perfect example of when life gives you lemons, turn them into lemon drops.
Oh, yeah. I don't think they, I mean, or burgers. Yeah. Yeah, whatever it is.
Because her dinner reservation fell through. The restaurant overbooked. So she took that and turned it into a fun night of wandering the city, searching for street burgers,
one did and her date joshua shared his worst dates too so it really actually bonded them together but jennifer how long has it been since that night yeah it's been like a week okay and you haven't heard anything no and i've sent like some text messages and nothing radio silence okay so you're definitely being ignored yeah thanks for the silent shout out by the way have you tried sending him a photo because if he doesn't respond to that then you know you're in trouble
photo of what jeff of anything no don't do that don't ever do that don't listen to their advice you could send him a photo of me no if he's a fan of our show he would definitely respond to that wait you think he's mad that she was talking about other dates now you want her sending pictures of other guys to him i'm just saying if she does and he doesn't respond then you really know something's wrong
I think she knows before the picture, Jeff. Okay? She's not an idiot.
Brooke's saying we're not at rock bottom yet. Let's wait until this call happens and see where we end up.
What is happening to you today?
Jennifer, any last words before I dial these numbers?
Or any last pictures for Jeff that you want to send?
Either way.
I have to do this?
We're already here. Let's just go through with it. How bad could it get? All right, let's do it.
I'll tell you about some of the worst second date updates we've ever done, and that'll make you feel better about it. Hold on.
Okay, here we go. Hello? Hey, is this Joshua? Yeah, is this? Hey, man, this is a whole radio show is calling you right now. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Hey, good morning.
That was a lot. You came in real hot there, Josh. How are you doing?
Sorry, I'm married to a Michael who hates Mike. I get it. I apologize.
I'm sorry that my host is trying to make this segment all about her and her marriage. I was trying to say I understand. Okay, we get it. The real thing that we're interested in, though, Joshua, is you and the date that you went on the other night with one of our listeners named Jennifer.
You know who I'm talking about.
Yeah, it sounds like you guys had a really fun night together.
Why do you know that?
Great question. Oh, yeah.
Because that's how this segment works. It's called Second Date Update, and we spoke to her about your date, and she's a little bit confused about why she's not getting a call back for a second meetup. Really? Yeah, she said that? Yeah.
yeah is that not accurate no it's accurate she's like a really nice person she's cute and everything but you're yeah your words are saying nice things but your tone is saying something else yeah it's like really the huh wasn't very good i don't i don't think i know how to say this but i just don't think i'm the right person for her you know
Uh-uh. We don't know. But why? I mean, you don't get to decide that, right? That's what she gets to decide.
I mean, that's her choice, right? And she obviously thinks that there's definitely something between you two if she's calling us. Yeah.
Yeah, definitely her choice.
Oh, okay. She's quiet again, right?
Something's going on.
Yeah.
Can we get your take on the date? Did you feel a connection with her?
Stacking?
Oh, like the cups thing where you do it in competition? Oh, yeah. I'm being serious. I bet I did it for the longest time.
The Anna Kendrick song?
No. Okay, so we don't know what that is. Yeah, what is stacking?
Is it back to back to back to back or all at the same time?
So, I mean, I could see, like, I would interpret that as, oh, you wish that you were out with someone else right after me. Like, that wouldn't feel good to hear. I could understand that.
Is there any way you could have, like, misunderstood her or...
I can totally understand that.
We kind of all see where you're coming from. I wonder if Jennifer sees it the same way because she is on the other line listening to this.
My bad. Jennifer?
It was fun. It was a fun time. It just feels like maybe that's a conversation you have with your, like, best friend. Yeah. Like, I miss my whole face, girl.
That is a lot to ask for, Tori. That's a whole new philosophy.
No, that would be part of being excellent.
Yeah, but you do that, he said, after the first date. See, this is the whole thing with rules. Like, they get so complicated. Why don't you just be a normal human and have a good conversation?
What? Jeff, that doesn't... No structure.
Here's a question. Tori, if he would have done those things for the other people and also listened and complimented you and asked you questions, how would you have felt?
Okay. That's not the apology that she was hoping for.
I mean, now he knows, right? Like, now the expectations of what you're looking for are out there. Like, you might as well give him a chance to make that happen, don't you think?
That was actually the smoothest thing he's ever done.
We did our best.
Wait, are you just now hearing that? I am. After thousands, he finally heard it.
It's hard to sometimes change, right? What? This guy. Sorry, what were you saying? This guy was so stuck on his plan that when it was a problem, he couldn't adjust. Pivot.
Oh, I see. It's God's fault.
God's fault.
And two out of the four of us will actually hear what you said. Yeah. Yeah.
Welcome to the podcast. We're so glad you're here, especially to start off your Monday. It's Burke and Jeffrey, the home of the Second Date Update, and you found us. We've got a brand new one for you today where you are going to learn all about the Tao of Steve. Oh, yes. Very educational. Did you know about this before, Jose?
It's a thing.
Had you ever abided by the rules?
Okay. No doubt for Jose. All right. Let's find out what it is. The show starts right now.
Two decades?
Okay.
Nobody wants you? Yeah, I'm good at that one.
I love those gone boys.
I wanted you to be Steve, the originator of all of this, but apparently you're Bobby. That works, too.
Isn't calling our show breaking rules one and three already? I think so.
That's rule number four, be desperate. Jeffery just didn't get to it.
Because if you're excited about someone and it's, like, the first time you've ever felt this way, like, lean into it. Like, life's too short to be desireless.
How did you know her? Is it an online thing?
What are you excellent at, friend? Oh, I'm excited what this opportunity was.
Oh, okay. So they're like tourists in the area and they need some help.
Okay.
It's interesting. Most people would pull out Google Translate on their phone. Or pull it up on their phone on Google Maps and give it to them.
You're being kind. So you're going to leave your date standing in front of the restaurant while you walk this family? Take her with you.
You know what a museum is.
What did you do the second time?
Oh, wow. That's super nice, bro. I thought you were going to go to hero mode and tackle the dine and dasher, but you just took care of it.
I see.
Did she fall into that ploy?
Meanwhile, you're checking your bank statement to make sure it doesn't bounce.
Honestly, it's a gentleman thing to do.
The goner got gone.
How long did you wait before you contacted her after the date?
When I tell myself I'm going to eat healthy and then what do you know, a whole box of Oreos ends up in my mouth.
So bad.
I don't know if we could call a dating strategy your belief system. That seems a little dramatic.
Okay.
And we've all seen you after you drink a lot. It's not excellent.
That's exactly right, Jose.
Hey, Tori. The whole show's here.
Yeah, but it's also a podcast.
Okay. I mean, you could see, it's probably pretty obvious that it's driving him nuts not knowing why you're not calling. Yeah.
Oh, wait a minute. Why do you say that?
And I'm sorry, not only that, if she's in heels, it's not comfortable to walk people to the... So you don't value helping people, you value material things like food and shoes. Don't come at her like that.
I can't believe he didn't compliment you because, I mean, he gushed about you to us about how hot and lovely and nice you were. He never said anything like that to you?
What the heck? He's nice to everyone but you. Here's the thing. Obviously, he's a kind person. Do you think that he was just nervous and maybe that's why those things didn't happen for you?
That's why they slam doors in their face. Is that what you're saying? Yes.
Coming in hot.
A little sheepish there, Bobby?
Yeah. Wouldn't it be easier to just, like, apologize?
We said compliment her.
Go for it then.
She's very upset that she got cat catfished.
You did cat catfish me.
You're very sorry, right? Tell her how sorry you are for doing that.
Brooke is basically saying, team Rhett, team Rhett, and so we would like to offer to send you out on another date with him, and we would pay for it. I don't know. Two cats, three cats, one cat, no cat, whatever. However many cats you want or don't want on it.
Yes. You went through all this effort to make this happen, and we're running out of time here, so what do you say? Christina, one more date with Rhett. I need a yes or a no.
Yes, we should take all the credit for this.
You know what really makes me happy? Hearing someone regrettably agree to go out on a date again.
Fine. They're going to look back and listen to this on their wedding day right before Christina turns to the pastor and is like, fine, I do.
Yeah. It's a good reminder that everybody values different things in their relationships. And for Christina, she values honesty about your cat's real age. That's number one on the relationships.
It still mattered to her, just not quite as hot.
And we know that now. So whatever is important to you, we will call that person who's not calling you back, email the show so we can help, and go check out all of our Second Aid podcasts, wherever you get yours, at Brooke and Jeffrey.
Where's the worst place to take a woman on a first date?
It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, home of the second date update.
I mean, crematorium comes to mind.
Especially if you talked about having barbecue already that night.
But there is something that might be worse than that.
Well, I was going to say Chernobyl, but you know what? Let's talk to our listener, Rhett, because he thinks he may have taken his date someplace pretty regrettable.
Before we find out about this woman, just tell us the place that you took her.
It's good that you realize that, but let's go back and start from the beginning. Where did you meet this woman and what's her name?
Let me guess, you reached for the same cashew in the bag of trail mix and your eyes locked?
Like come up behind her and knead the pizza? Like grab her hands and show her how to toss it?
Yeah, it sounds like a great setup to go over to your ex's house. How does that come into the picture?
That is a lot to tackle, both pepperoni and cheese. So I can understand. Your head was totally full. I still don't get, how did you end up at your ex's house?
You brought Christina over to your ex's house? Oh, no.
Yeah. How did that go?
Okay, so you guys all spent the night at your ex's house, and then when you left the next morning, how did that go?
Okay, good.
If it's a finger that I'm thinking of, then it could be a good thing.
I'm very eager to hear how Christina felt the experience went.
We don't know. We're going to call her. We'll see how she's doing when we do your second date update right after this.
What went wrong on Rhett's first date?
A little hard to say.
Because there was pizza.
There was cute cats. And the one tiny mistake, and when I say tiny, I mean like minuscule, there was kind of a fight at his ex's house that involved him, his date, and his ex-girlfriend, resulting at the end in a certain finger being pointed at Rhett when he dropped Christina off at home.
And I don't necessarily think you're the one who needs to apologize. It sounds like your ex-girlfriend owes her more of an apology for not being cool about that.
I don't know.
Clearly, Rhett is somebody that wants everybody to get along, feels like you should be able to move past ex grievances. The ladies, I don't know why you guys are holding on to this like it's a big deal.
I don't have one.
But we don't know the whole story. We have a hunch of what went wrong. We need to get Christina's angle to really understand the full scope of this.
Well, let's find out what that is. I'm going to dial her right now. Hopefully she has nothing but good things to say about you.
Okay, we'll see how this goes. I'm dialing her right now.
We won't be able to see it. We'll be able to feel it, though. Here we go.
Hey, is this Christina?
Hey, Christina. Good morning. We've all been very eager to talk to you. We're a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And I don't even know where to begin.
Fine.
Confusing. We know. This is a radio show, and we're doing a segment trying to help out one of our listeners that you went on a date with recently. His name is Rhett.
Because we heard about your guys' hangout. We won't rehash the whole story.
He emailed us. Why is he doing that? Well, obviously because he likes you.
Oh, I've fallen for that one before. Yikes. We all have, Jeff. Yeah. Okay.
Okay, we did not know that part of the story.
Look, I know that we all feel terrible about that. Rhett feels sorry for even making the decision to bring you over there.
Like about bringing you over there to introduce you to his cat?
That is diabolic. That was worse to you than the argument that broke out between the three?
I mean, we do hear a lot of people lying about their age on dating apps to impress somebody. Not usually lying about their cat's age to impress each other, but...
I really hope you would, because we need to tell you, Christina, that Rhett's been on the other line listening to this call, wanting to clearly speak.
Well, a very clear plan. When do you plan to actually meet up with her again? Like, how do you make that happen?
Yeah, you're breaking Brooke's spirit the more that you talk about it.
Yeah, I think he's proud of himself, clearly.
You know how these women are. They try and like manipulate you. They try and like tell you how to live the relationship. And then they wait on the other line of this phone call. Listening in on this radio show this entire time to everything that you said, right? Well, what are you talking about? What does that mean? Well, I thought you would have known by now.
Lucy's on the other line listening to this. What?
Yeah, that's how this works. Lucy, are you there?
Oh, he was Nate before. Wow, he's by his full name.
Wow, let's save that for the bedroom, guys, because this is getting a little bit spicy. What I think I'm trying to just read between the lines of that conversation and what Lucy was trying to say is she's willing to give you one more chance, Nick. to do the date the right way.
Well, Lucy, this is going to be my time because we're running short here because I have to ask Nate, would you be willing to go out with Lucy one more time?
All right. It's a game of chicken.
Who's going to text who first?
Is it just me or was that guy like the hot girl whisperer? Just knows exactly what to say to any hot girl to have them eating out of his hand.
But that in itself is like a crazy difficult thing for a guy to do.
Show me one.
I mean, this whole strategy really was just like basically don't say anything.
yeah right for guys yeah yeah just stay vague don't tell them anything which is interesting and this is why i'll never get dates because i can't shut up so if we want hot girls to listen to our podcast i guess we should just be vague about it oh yeah so uh any hot girls it's online somewhere comedians yeah go find it we gotta bounce are never gonna date someone higher yeah that's the
But think about the hot girls that are going to listen to our podcast.
By the way, the official one is Brooke and Jeffrey's Second Date Update. There's a lot of fakes and knockoffs right now, so don't be fooled.
Brooke and Jeffrey's Second Date Update. Find it online wherever you get your podcasts.
I'll admit, when I first started dating, I thought people went on dates to, like, find true love.
What a naive little boy way to think. Because some people just date for the free meal.
Some people just date because they need somebody to administer that EpiPen shot at the shellfish buffet.
It's half off of crab's legs. I'm not going to not eat.
that okay so yeah a lot of reasons and today our listener lucy is asking for a second date even though she isn't a hundred percent sure why she wants to date this guy that's good been there lucy so hopefully just talking it out with us might give you some clarity but welcome to the show hi i love it like four minutes into our conversation she just hangs up she's like no actually not worth it never mind this was a bad choice well lucy tell us about this guy that you met like start from the beginning
Okay.
I heard that he's not as good looking as you. I didn't hear what you said after that.
Sorry. Humble Lucy. What was the other reason? Well, he's not chasing me the way that I normally get chased after a date. You normally have men, like, physically chasing you? Probably sometimes.
Alexa, stop gagging during the description.
But even though he seemed normal and nice and totally out of the ordinary, you still went out with him.
Wow.
You're used to the late night crowd. So.
You're like, he's not crying yet, but he will be when I'm done.
Well, you have to understand, she's the one that's calling us right now.
Although there's a reason we didn't answer your first question, Jose, but that's okay.
So tell us more what happens during this happy hour drink state.
I thought she was like, oh, God, this guy's going to try and feed me too. Is that kind of where you're normally at, Lucy?
Willing to go along with it a little longer. Yeah.
But he did say I'll catch you later. So there's some hope for a second meet up there. Did he ever? What? Was that the end of all conversation?
He could have just thumbs-upped it, and that would have been worse.
You don't?
Yeah, what made you reach out to us for help?
Maybe his, like, family member was in the hospital and he had to go visit her or him at that point. Would that change your mind? You don't say meet up with someone if you're going to the hospital.
There is a little bit of a power dynamic going on, and I am excited to hopefully get him on the phone. We'll see what he has to say if he answers in your second date update right after this. Hold on.
Let's recap what we know about our listener Lucy and her date with Nate the other day.
Well, I don't know. Number one, according to her, she is way hotter than him.
Number two, he was lucky to be going out with someone as hot as she was.
And number three, his personality was fine, but not as fine as her hotness. And despite all of that, Nate was the one who cut their date short after just one drink.
It is.
I'm not sure, but it's all very unusual for Lucy. Clearly, it's got her a little bit flustered, very confused, which is the reason why she wants us to give him a call and get some answers. Right, Lucy?
We're not disputing that. We all agree.
Lucy, we're all taking your word for it. But I think what would really help us is if you could think of one nice thing to say about him that we could bring up once we get him on the phone. Something that you liked about him.
Okay. Well, I'm just going to make a note. He knows how to have a conversation so that I can compliment him. Sort of.
I'm just going to bring it up to him just so we can say something nice, and that usually helps people open up a little bit.
If he answers.
First, we've got to get him on the phone. Let me dial him. We'll see if he picks up, and then we can move from there. Here we go. Hello? Hey, is this Nate? Uh, yeah.
All right. Who's this? This is, uh, we're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Yeah, so we won't take up too much of your time. What we're doing is a segment. It's called a second date update where we're trying to help one of our listeners get back in touch with you after you two went out on a hot date the other night.
Who are you talking about? It's a woman named Lucy. Lucy, yeah, okay.
So clearly you, you know what you're doing here. This is all on purpose.
Well, then most women in my case.
So you mentioned earlier there's two things that you always do. You keep the date short was one.
So clearly you seem to have some sort of strategy with her.
Oh, same car that's following him around the neighborhood. So you'll know which one it is, Mark. Just hop in. Oh, my God.
Her delivery was interesting there.
It's hard to say because listening back to it again, I think she was probably unhappy with Mark for saying that information on the air because she said criminal past. He said cartel. So there is a difference. Yeah.
Maybe she just didn't think that the information would come out that way. So she had to play it like, oh, I'm joking, guys, because someone could hear this. And now everyone who works on your show is in jeopardy. So I'm kidding. Take the hint.
Yeah. Megan's fish got ate on her date. So she said no to that guy. Not sure why, but she did email us back saying that she is now a listener to our show regularly and she'd like to request our services. So Megan, welcome back to Brooke and Jeffrey.
Yeah.
Because that's the thing, we're not good at taking hints.
We are not sure, but all we know is Megan did not get another date. Although, Brooke, there is a dark van outside the station with a bunch of guys who say they're big fans and they want to talk to you privately, so I don't know what that's about.
They want you to sign some shirts. Anyway, if you want some help, you can always email the show. We can call that person who's not calling you back and go check out all of our second dates wherever you get your podcasts. They're available at Brooke and Jeffrey.
Still living with it. Well, apparently there is a new man that you met recently. Yes. Okay, tell us about your date and who it was with, where you went, what you ate, why you liked him, how it ended. Wow. And five things that may or may not have gone wrong.
Yeah. Just get all the questions out of the way.
Like an insta-date.
From the art gallery to the food truck.
Yeah.
Is that what normally happens to you, Brooke?
Yeah.
What's a thoughtful question?
I don't understand what that even means.
Maybe there's, is there another great question that he had?
Oh. Your family has a criminal past? Yeah.
So I'm just decoding what you said.
Now, earlier you mentioned there was no chance for him to ditch, to escape. Okay, yeah. And you kind of laughed at that.
Sprinting out of the store?
Did somebody shout, oh my God, it's one of the Jonas Brothers. Yeah.
There was a digestive issue.
But it's like you said, if there's an emergency happening in your clothes at the moment, you don't stick around and explain yourself.
I know.
I don't know what the answer is, but hopefully he picks up when we call him and he has some for us. When we reach out to Mark for you and ask, what made you sprint out of the bookstore without saying goodbye after your awesome insta-date?
Yeah.
We're going to find out when we do your second date update right after this. Hold on.
If you're just joining us, we may have uncovered secret audio of Mark at the very end of his first date with Megan. Yeah.
Uncovered because he literally sprinted out of the bookstore where they were without saying goodbye, leaving Megan wondering what is going on and who is going to pay for this Fifty Shades of Grey Make Your Own Adventure book.
It always ends weird, trust me. But Brooke had a theory that it was a post-taco truck emergency that had him sprinting out of there. But remember, Megan said that she liked him because Mark asked unique questions during the date. And that was a big turn on, right, Megan?
You didn't have time to prep it.
So, I mean, look, we're all pulling for it because we don't want you to have no connections in this new city that you just moved to.
Yeah. We'll try and help connect you with a guy, even if he can't read. At least it's somebody that you can hang out with at night and watch a TV show.
No.
Yeah.
And we'll upgrade slowly over time if need be. But first, let's call Mark. We'll see if he picks up. Hopefully get some answers. Okay? Here we go.
Okay.
Hello? Hey, is this Mark? Yes. Who's this? Hey, Mark. We didn't catch you in the bathroom or something. It sounds kind of echoey on your end.
Yeah, it does. That's presumptuous.
Well, I hope we didn't catch you at a bad time. Who are you? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we should tell you. We're a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Okay, good morning. What's this about?
We've had unlucky second daters return back to the show looking for another shot at love. What we don't have that often is second date ease. The people we call during the segment who don't know who we are coming back and asking for our help.
We're kind of a fun, jokey, comedy-type show, but one of the big things we do is a dating segment called Second Date Update. I don't know if you're familiar with it, but one of our listeners reached out to us because you guys went out the other night. She had a really good time. Her name's Megan. Oh. Oh, God. Okay, yeah. Yeah.
Well, we have a lot of questions for you, Mark. The number one question being, why did you sprint out of the bookstore at the end of the date without saying anything? Is there a reason behind that? Yeah, I definitely had a good reason. Well, good, because we heard about your date. Megan told us a lot about it, but she has no idea why you would go running out of that bookstore.
Should she know the reason?
Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
When we heard about it, she said that her family had kind of like a sordid past with maybe some criminal activity.
Felons are better than the cartel? Is that our stance?
How did you get to the cartel from what she told you?
Okay. So wait, you learn all this information about her. How do you go from being in the bookstore with her to sprinting out?
It's not like the cartel is tapping the line right now listening to what you're saying. At least we don't think so. I don't know how they operate, but I do know Megan is on the other line listening to the call.
Wouldn't be surprised. Megan's on the phone right now? Yeah, that's how the segment works. There she was. But go ahead.
But this one in particular was one of the most popular that we had on all of last year. I'll just play the clip, and I think most of you will remember. Here's Megan.
He's just telling us his side of the story. Yeah, and I'm glad I did.
So Mark, Mark, do you want to apologize for outing her family as part of the cartel?
Okay, Megan.
I'm joking.
She's joking.
I'm a little bit scared like Mark is.
Mark, what's your read on how Megan is doing this? No, I'm completely against this. I want to protect myself.
I mean, we're trying to keep this light, but I mean, there's no way that's real.
Of course not.
Yeah, there is some evidence stacked against her.
I can't do this.
Yeah, everybody owns a Tesla now, dude.
The whole point of this call, Mark, is to offer to send you out on another date with Megan. And we won't say where you're going just because we want to keep you safe. So we'll use a code word like a la biblioteca.
Wait, actual fish, not a bag of fish? What did you just say?
Oh, an independent woman. I mean, dirty money, but yeah, independent.
You don't believe me? I don't believe that he's really like a famous dad. You don't believe me that I'm rich and famous?
Okay, okay. Exactly. No, it fits the profile. He doesn't like to be caught on camera. He doesn't like to be seen in big crowds. He wants to go to places that are under the radar so that nobody knows who he is.
Aria, you should really rethink your decision here. I would like to offer to send you out on another date with mysterious Ethan to find out who... Hey, hey, hey.
Oh, no. Oh, my God. Oh, God, he hung up. What just happened?
What just happened is you lost your chance with Ben Stiller's son. God dang it.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I don't want to get mad at people for saying no. I mean, that's totally their right. But sometimes you need to pull a brook and drop your morals and just say yes to someone that you don't even like just for the story.
That's right.
Yes. Really?
How many basement boys and homeless folks did you go out with just to come into the radio and tell that story?
I know. Now we're never going to know who the NDA guy really is, and that is going to haunt all of us for the rest of our year and probably the rest of our lives.
If you can't get a date, NDA or not, you can always reach out to us. We'll call that person who's not calling you back. And if you want to go check out all of our second date updates, they're available on podcasts, wherever you get yours, at Brooke and Jeffrey.
Well, I'm saying like the same TV shows, same sports teams, same mom. I don't know if I really trust that line of thinking. One of our listeners says he was drawn to a woman based on what they both hate. And that actually sounds healthier to me.
So, I don't say this often, but let's spread the hate today and talk to Ethan and learn about his date. Ethan, welcome to the show.
Hey, guys.
Before we do that, I like that idea for that exercise. First, let's talk to Ethan about what he hates and how that bonded him to the girl that he met. What's her name, by the way?
And where did she say that line? Oh, it's on her dating profile. Ah. Okay. So you saw that and you were like, this is my type of woman. Exactly.
Every office has at least one of those people, but that's cool to bond over that.
Well, not for everybody. Some people all bond over how much they hate humor.
But okay, you guys end up meeting up for a date?
I think the positive, though, is quiet, and you get a little bit more intimate time.
Okay. Well, it's nice that you got exactly what you wanted. How did it go?
Okay, we have a lot of things that you hate so far.
So far you hate people that microwave their fish, you hate big crowds, and you hate cameras.
I feel you, though. The people at the radio station use my image on stuff all the time, and it's really annoying.
Yeah, pictures everywhere around here. It's on the cars. It's on the flyers. Give me some space.
I'm with you, though, bro.
He's thorough, Brooke. He does his research and decides if he likes a place before he takes it. I think that's a good thing.
How did the date end?
Yeah, yeah. What do you think, Ethan? You think she was being honest with you that she really had to go work the next day?
Well, let's find out what made her change her mind and decide to turn around halfway over to your place. We'll get you your second date update with Aria right after this.
We're talking to Ethan, who we learned is not a fan of microwaved fish, large crowds, or security cameras.
But good news is he is a big fan of Aria, the woman that he went out with the other night. And it went great until the very end of the evening when she changed her mind on the walk over to his place and said, actually, never mind. I need to get home and sleep because I have to work tomorrow.
Yeah, because that was eight days ago, and I don't know what she does for work that could keep her occupied for eight straight days and nights, but it seems like something is up.
Or she, like, works on a submarine out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. There's just no service out there.
Yeah, an astronaut of some sort.
Do you think we're close on any of these guesses, Ethan? That's a good question. I think he could be.
I'm just kidding. I think she's in marketing. Okay. Marketing submarines and marketing rocket ships. So that's totally different. But I don't know.
Translation, if this doesn't work out, Brooke is interested. No, that is not. She finds you very impressive specimen. she normally hates all the men let's call this lady and see if she's willing to give you another shot here we go thank you yeah we got you hold on hello hi we're looking to speak with aria that's me oh oh aren't you pleasant wow hi aria
It's nice to talk to a friendly person on this every once in a while. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I don't know if you've heard of us. Uh-oh. No, don't worry. We're not doing a bad thing, I don't think.
We're doing this thing on our show called the Second Date Update, and we're trying to help out one of our listeners that you met up with about a week ago, a little bit more than that. His name's Ethan. Oh, my gosh. Wait, actually?
Why are you surprised?
We spoke to him. We got that impression, too. So I guess I can understand why you're a little bit surprised that he would come through a radio show to reach you.
I feel like he maybe is a sweet guy. He's also a confused guy right now because it's been eight days since you hung out. And he doesn't really have an explanation for why the two of you haven't met up again.
So why did you need to use an excuse?
Now we're interested. Yeah, you got to tell us.
We don't like laughing on this show. No, I love laughing.
You said NDA like a non-disclosure agreement?
And that didn't make you want to sign the NDA even more just to, like, figure that out?
No.
We didn't mention to you before, but that is Ethan, who's been waiting on the other line wanting to talk to you.
Yeah, he's being honest.
I don't think the criminals really do that.
Well, I think you're kind of selling it to yourself there because all of the best parties and events that I've ever been to made me sign NDAs.
Well, I would tell you more, but I'm technically not allowed to speak on that.
Or maybe just what age brackets he needs to pick going forward.
Until he learns how to do that.
It's fine.
You guys listen to our show. You know we troll. Brooke, I think you went a little bit over the line during the call.
So I don't know.
Brooke, you are in charge of our pay, apparently. I like that they think I'm that much of a boss. I appreciate that. I do. I do. And that's all we need. Well, more money, we'll just get more second date.
I think I got two bucks in my wallet.
I'll follow up on that one. I really will.
It's broken Jeffrey in the morning.
Jeff, that's low. That's too low.
Dude, old people go viral on that thing all the time. Yeah, but now you're losing so many hours of your life.
Have you reached out to her since a date?
Uh-huh.
Are we going to hear a serenade? Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Go for it. That loving feeling. Oh. Whoa, that loving feeling.
We'll pay for it. Remember, Bethany, if you say yes, the date's on us.
Zach, you're her kryptonite. Every time that she's around you, she goes weak.
It's the perfect combo. It's all leading you towards Zach. So it might be a no from you now, Bethany, but it could be possible next month at Sienna's bachelorette party.
Finally the sixth time she goes, I'll go out with him again. We will call you 100 times until you agree to it.
Get your Uber app open, Bethany. He's going to dial it for you. Oh, my God. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. So, yeah, when it comes to Bethany and Zach, we are 0 for 2.
That's the thing. 0 for 2 is not three strikes, you're out. Zach is still in this game for a couple more swings.
Brooke, I was so proud of you during this segment.
I really thought in part one, you were not very on board with Zach trying again after the rejection. I think you called him sad and desperate.
Something like that. But by the end, you were really on board with Zach pulling for him.
You know, I don't need to say any more. Brooke, you are my MVP of today's phone call. Even if it did end in total utter failure, you can take the MVP on this one.
And remember, Brooke can be the MVP for you if you email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back, no matter how many times you've run out to them and they've said no.
No negative attitudes here. And you won't find any negative attitudes on our podcast either. You'll find them wherever you get yours at Brooke and Jeffrey.
Second Date Update.
Out of all the second dates we've done, we're talking hundreds or thousands even.
Possibly.
I know every once in a while I say, this is a first.
But this one really is.
No, I mean it those other times, but this time I really mean it.
Because we have a return caller. His name is Zach. And you might remember he was on the show a while back, told us about his mobile bartending business.
that he does for parties and events oh like weddings and stuff and he made pretty good money doing it exactly last time that he was on he wanted us to call a woman named bethany that he had met at one of those parties well now he's back and he wants us to call that same woman bethany again again what but she knows us how did the last time go that we called her i don't think it went well zach are you okay did you hit your head because we already did this and she turned you down right is that what
If you go out with the same girl two times, that's considered two separate dates.
I didn't realize there's like a statute of limitations, you know, where after a certain point it like cancels, it resets.
OK, but for those of our listeners who don't know what happened the last time or who might not remember Bethany, could you jog our memory just a little bit?
Yeah. What happened the first time?
So it didn't work out the last time you were on the show, but now you're saying you ran into her again recently. Yeah. What happened in the second meetup?
Okay. So what happened when you and Bethany saw each other at this new bachelorette party?
How did the interaction go?
Well, the sparks are just flying between you two right now. The romance is getting hot.
Just open 20 beers and leave them on the counter. Yeah. You got to make out.
I did. I got a make-up. Of course she did, because she'd been drinking, and you pointed out how lonely she is.
Yeah, go into the details for Brooke. How much time...
Yeah. So you're saying that she's not responding to you after your second bachelorette party makeout.
And that's what's funny. That's what makes this an actual first. We have two of the exact same people that are being called on the second date update and hoping that the second time goes better than the first.
Yeah, I mean, we'll just see if she even answers because she has our number, too, from the last time that we called.
We're going to find out. We're going, for the very first time, a second date update redo.
It's coming up. We'll make that call right after this. The great Yogi Berra once said, I'm getting deja vu all over again. And I think that's what I'm feeling right now.
You guys are so embarrassing to work with. You don't know anything. The thing is, I'm having that deja vu feeling because we're having the exact same two second daters back on again. So you'd think the title of this would be third date update, but not according to our listeners, Zach.
If you remember Zach, he's a mobile bartender who met a woman named Bethany at a joint bachelor-bachelorette party he was working. Bethany said no to us the first time that we called her.
But fast forward months later, they meet again at a different bachelorette party, end up making out, and now she's not texting him back.
Making out is pretty close.
It's interesting the things that you choose to brag about.
I wonder how Bethany is going to feel when we call her. And if she answers, she hears our voices again. Like Zach, doesn't this feel weird to you at all? You seem so calm.
And Brooke makes out with chill guys all the time without knowing their names.
We'll see. Let's just call her. We'll see if she picks up. Here we go.
Hi. Is this Bethany?
Hi, friend.
No, no, no.
No, Bethany, you have no idea what we're even calling about.
Bethany, look, I hear you. I really want to respect your wishes, but we have a job to do on this show. Just like a certain strapping hunk of a man who was doing his job serving you drinks recently at a bachelorette party.
Because it is interesting that the two of you keep randomly running into each other when you're at your most vulnerable, Bethany.
but it was like the tiniest i mean the teeniest the tiniest okay well we want to talk to that teeny tiny little part of you and reintroduce that tiny part of you to zach who you know is already listening and desperately wants to talk to you oh my god i forgot that was how it works zach you there
I mean, Bethany, what we were just talking about before we called you is stuff like fate and destiny. Things happen for a reason.
I mean, Zach, you're the one who has been calling us all these times wanting to connect with her. I'll give you 20 seconds here to say your piece. Convince Bethany to meet up with you one more time.
Is that a selling point for you, Bethany? I'm not really sure.
Why are you being mean? She went to work. She got the money. She paid her rent, she said.
Okay, the person that we really need to focus on here is Blaine. I bet he feels horrible for not coming through for Carly in her time of need.
And dishing out the $800, right, Blaine?
Well, here's what, you won't have to be responsible for paying for your next date with Carly because we will cover that bill for you.
No. Oh, actually, wait. That made me think of something. Carly, did you move up the date a few days earlier so you could ask him for your rent before it was due? No.
Is that why you changed the date?
Weird.
Carly, I am equally parts disappointed and impressed by you.
Joke's on you, Carly. Nobody here reads. But let's do what you said. Let's ask Blaine. Would you like to go out with Carly one more time on our dime?
Carly, do you have some available, though? Because now's the time, it sounds like.
Man, I didn't know that working was optional.
Yeah, I didn't even know I could do that. I really need to look on to that. Hold on a second. Hey, Brooke, I'm a little short on play money this month. You rent your clothes, so I'm sure you've got some extra cash. Question mark?
Sent. Okay.
I'll see how she responds to that. I don't know. Hopefully.
No, I didn't.
Brooke, I'm not sending you pics for it. You know what?
Brooke. Stop. Brooke. No, you're saying me pics? Gross. Brooke, stop it. Okay, you know what?
Okay, I'm just going to send her the link to our podcast at Brooke and Jeffrey.
No, I'm going to send her the link and my photo's on there.
Please do not talk to me ever again. Thank you. It's going to be tough. Bye.
All right. There was something in there for you too, Extra Brooke.
Go check out our podcast wherever you get yours, at Brooke and Jeffrey. All of our photos are up on there. And email the show if you want help. We'll call that person who's not calling you back.
You know, researchers say what you text a person after a good first date can actually be more important than the date itself.
I'm just saying, look, for example, if you were to text, hey, I had a great time with you tonight.
Also, I accidentally took your fork from the dinner for a DNA test.
It might not go over quite so well.
Just try not to overthink it. That's all I'm saying. Because one of our listeners, Carly, says she had a text exchange with a guy after they went out.
And it could be the reason she's not getting call back.
Now, we're going to get to that and talk about the text in a little bit. But first, Carly, welcome to the show.
Yeah.
And I don't ask this a lot, but how important is it for you, Carly, to get a second date here with this guy? Is it a lot like yay, nay, or hey, neighbor type of situation?
Yeah, that's the medium.
Is it a yay, nay, or hey, neighbor? Where are you on the important scale?
No, that's not as fun as yay, nay, hey, neighbor. We only do fun stuff on our show.
This guy is a yay. Tell us about him and how you two met.
Is that what Blaine did for you?
Hit it off. Well done, Carly. She doesn't have value right now.
I knew you would.
I already said that joke, but that's okay. Carly, keep going. So you guys hit it off.
Oh, bro. This guy isn't even calling her back yet. Let's not start making the wedding plans and choosing the plates and everything. That's true. Okay. So that sounds really nice. Did you guys end up hanging out?
Somebody's jaded over there.
OK, so you moved it up to Tuesday. How did that go?
Way to downplay it, Brooke.
That's all you did? You just did dinner?
How'd you feel after that hangout?
That's great. You did say the one thing that you're worried about that could have stopped you from hanging out again was your text message exchange afterwards. Can you get into that?
Just read it?
I don't know how long it is. Just give us the vibe, I think.
Normal to me. Like, don't you, when you were dating, Brooke, talk about paying rent with all the guys that you hung out with?
How did he react to that text?
Wow. Alexis, are you taking notes over there?
Yeah, what happened after that?
An exchange of money or goods can change the vibe between two people.
I'm very cold after the exchange, I will tell you that, even though I'm satisfied in the moment. Just leave. Just leave. Let's just not get into this anymore. We need to call Blaine and figure out where his head is at. That's the most important. We're going to come back and do that with your Second Date Update right after this.
We're in the middle of a second date update with one of our listeners, Carly. Am I saying that right? Carly?
It could be. What? The traditional pronunciation of Carly. We're all still recovering from some of the information that we learned about her date with Blaine.
She did. I'll hit the highlights real quick. They had a great meetup at Topgolf. That's where they met. Had a great get-to-know-you date sesh, followed by kind of an awkward text exchange that involved him sending our listener, Carly, money because she admitted she was short on rent.
It is, but it does change the vibe. I mean, me just saying it.
It feels awkward to say they exchanged money afterwards. But he did send her some, and then after that, did not follow through with their plans for another date.
Carla, you must have said thank you, right? Oh, yeah, of course. Okay, so what's running through your head then? What's going through your mind before we reach out to him?
You hear that?
Husband Michael, do not ask Brooke to chip in towards the rim. This is on you this time.
Let's just reach out. We'll see if Blaine picks up, and hopefully he has an explanation for us. But here we go. Hello? Hey, is this Blaine? Yeah, this is Blaine. Hey, man, what's up? It's Jeff.
I thought he would know. No.
Yeah.
Thanks a lot. I'm sorry. Who are you guys? Yeah, I'll explain. We're a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
it's a good thing should be we're calling you for a really fun exciting reason because we're doing this segment called second date update and we got an email from one of our listeners named carly who says she's very disappointed that you two aren't seeing each other and hanging out again yeah she really liked you yeah uh okay okay okay does that make you curious you have no not really
There's a million of those out there. It would be helpful if we get a little bit of information for maybe there's more reasoning why. I don't know if it's too much to delve into this, but I did hear that the two of you guys kissed at the end of your date.
And usually when that happens and the lady says she wants to go out again, that's a pretty exciting thing for a guy.
Oh, whoa. That's new information to us.
I don't know.
No. Yeah, so I actually did. Oh. Wow.
Oh, my gosh. Dude, what a generous move of you.
She mentioned that you were, like, a really good, caring guy, so that's clearly coming through.
Yeah. Right. Did that make it weird, though, to give her the $200?
What was going on in your mind?
Before you make any final decisions on that, I feel like maybe you need to hear from Carly herself because she has been listening on the other line wanting to talk to you. Oh, she's on the phone? Yeah, she's waiting for the other $800.
No, I'm kidding. We didn't even know about the $800 deficit. So just let Carly talk to you here. Carly, are you there?
You don't have to pay for Topgolf.
It's so offensive. If you're at a birthday party, you don't.
If you leave before they bring the bill, there's nothing they can do. Oh, my God.
Well, Brooke, it's not Danielle's ex-versary. It's Kendrick and his exes. So that's not fair. The only thing that's fair to do is to offer Kendrick and Danielle a second date paid for by us. Oh, you're out of your mind.
Kendrick wants more gift cards.
I know Kendrick's up for it. All right, so, Danielle, that's a no from you. It's an absolute no. Okay, absolutely no.
Oh, my God. Okay, Kendrick, how did the gift go?
What a happy ending on this one.
Oh, man. Exiversary is a new term that I did not know about.
How many years do you think it's going to take before Webster's picks that up?
They've got yeet in the dictionary. Exiversary needs a spot in those pages.
But he went through her things for a good reason. No. It's a good reminder to reach out to an ex and tell them no hard feelings. And I have a Jamba Juice gift card coming your way. And if you also need some help with your dating life, we can step in and do that for you. Call that person who's not calling you back.
By the way, you can go check out all of our second dates wherever you get your podcasts on Apple, on Spotify, all of it at Brooke and Jeffrey.
You know, the picture you see on someone's dating profile compared to what they look like in real life can be vastly different. Just look at Jose and his passport photo, which hasn't been updated in 27 years.
He still has his baby teeth in his passport picture.
The point is, the photo compared to real life can be very, very shocking and different. And really, that first moment when you finally see your date in person can be huge. Apparently, that was the case for one of our listeners, Kendrick, who needs our help today. Kendrick, welcome to the show.
Right. Okay, set the expectations low for the in-person meetup.
Right.
I know, that is what it's like hanging out with me. So tell us, what did you do for your date, Kendrick? Where'd you guys go?
You activity a girl? Is that separate than a normal model? That's literally a model.
Okay. Yes, absolutely. So it was a good first meeting then. How did the rest of the day at the mall go?
I was trying not to stare at her a lot. I was making a lot of jokes, too. Wait, sorry, you said you were making a lot of jokes?
Okay, you're making jokes. You're comparing her to TV commercial ladies.
I'm calling her Yoplait Princess is what I'm calling her.
What did you and Yoplait Princess do from there?
Nice.
Oh, God.
What a weird thing to say. I can't believe you. Like, I don't date low lives. What could you have done?
I don't know. I'm not liking the tone of Yoplait Princess right now, so we're going to find out.
Oh, my God. We'll figure out what's wrong with this Yogurt girl when we call her and get you your second date update right after this.
Yo play princess. Dancing around the beach with her crown and television cameras following her all around.
That wasn't the date. That's just what played in the head of our listener, Kendrick, when he saw Danielle for the very first time.
And they walked the mall together, almost got head lice trying on hats.
It was funny, and they ended up at a seafood buffet. Had a really, really nice time. It all sounds great, but since then, the only communication he's got was a very troubling text from Danielle. What did her text say again, Kendrick? I don't date lowlifes like you, so see ya.
It sounds bad, but I've sent worse texts to my mother before, and she still loves me, so there's a chance there's a good shot of redemption here.
Why'd you go, hello?
Maybe the sigh. Hey, is this Danielle? Who's on the phone?
Yes, a whole radio show is on the phone right now, eager to talk to you. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Why are you guys calling me? Good question. We do this segment called a second date update. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that, but it's where we help out our listeners who went out on a date with somebody and they're not getting a second one to try and figure out why something went wrong, if there was a mistake that happened. We figured there must be some sort of thing that went wrong.
Yeah. Based on the text message that you sent to our friend Kendrick the other day.
Oh, God.
I'm not sure what exactly you mean by that. Well, I'll tell you.
Were you seated already at this point or is this while you were waiting?
He said there was a long wait.
Did you see him go through your purse and take your card? Or are you just assuming that because you're in the bathroom? I don't have to because how it's not going to jump out of my wallet.
Okay. And you don't know that he knows that he's been listening on the other line of this phone call the entire time waiting to talk to you. Oh, my God. You know what I mean? Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yeah, sorry. He's been on the other line listening, if that wasn't clear.
You're not saying you didn't. Yeah, are you saying you're innocent that you didn't take it?
Kendrick, that's a weird statement, dude. Can you explain?
Can we ask, yeah, why are you giving gifts back to your ex-girlfriend?
Why are we even going through her purse and her wallet anyway?
Okay, they're both not perfect people. I think we can agree.
The people in commercials tend not to be as tall as they appear on TV.
Listen, okay, the good point is Kendrick is very detail-oriented because he looked at her license, he made sure that she is who she said she is.
like this is my bag bro like this is so that is that kendrick it sounds like that was a violation going through her stuff and then sounds like yeah wow i borrowed it i was gonna pay her back okay we're just gonna back away because now that it's all out in the open you can talk to danielle and apologize or say whatever it is that you want to say to her chemistry take over try to win her back here
Are you into emotional maturity, April?
So just real quick, what I'm hearing from April is she really wanted to sing on their date.
Yeah.
Totally. So this is what I'd like to offer, and it's 100% up to her, but in front of a nationwide audience listening all across the country, April.
April, seriously, no pressure. We would like to give you the chance to sing right now on our show. Finally get it out there and show Noah what he missed out on. Again, it's totally up to you. You can do it or not do it, but here's your shot.
It's better late than never.
Well, maybe a non-sports one for her.
You sing whatever's in your heart.
So April, I know this has been a lot, but we would like to send you out on another date. It could be like a karaoke date or we could do something.
What?
And we'll pay for it.
All right. Congratulations.
She didn't throw a guy underneath the table. Well done, Brooke.
Yeah, whatever.
It turned out to be actually a good match. The bad news, though, and this isn't necessarily for me, but there are 15 more requests on the text board from guys wanting Brooke to do something better or improve in the second date update.
No one's asking you to be anybody else.
I say any feedback is good feedback. Right, Brooke? They're invested in you and your success. All they want to see you do is be good.
Okay. Well, you can still try. Doubt she'll listen. But keep your requests coming in to 78592. If you want help with your dating life, email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back. And go check out all of our Second Date Podcasts wherever you get yours, at Brooke and Jeffrey. We're up on YouTube, so go subscribe. And also Apple, Spotify, anywhere. We're chill about it.
Second date update. We've got a loyal listener to the show who says he's been tuning into our second dates for years.
And one of his worst fears finally came true.
He had to email us to be in one of his own. His name is Noah, so let's talk to him. Noah, I'm happy you're here, even if you're not. Glad you came to us for help. How are you doing today? I'm pretty good. How are you guys doing?
Well, we'll try to make this as seamless and gentle on you as possible. Let's start with the girl that you met recently. What's her name?
You're doing great so far. Our ratings have never been higher, so thank you.
I'm feeling good about it already, so let's keep going. How did you meet April? We met off an app, a dating app. Oh, our ratings just plummeted. You're going to need to be more fun.
Noah, I know you can't see Brooke right now in the studio, but she has never looked more confused and concerned in her entire life.
Yeah, that's wild.
Yeah, I was really into it. I think this is great. Don't listen to everybody, like, trying to poke holes in your date idea and say that it was horrible or, like, not well played.
He's not getting a call back right now, so he thinks maybe that was the reason. We don't know. No, and he doesn't know.
So is it something like she doesn't know that in baseball, the seventh inning, like in between, everybody sings a song together?
Brooke, just hear him out, okay? He's a big listener to our show.
I mean, this is going to be the easiest second date we've ever done if you talk like that to her when we get April on the phone.
I think you're leaning too much the other way now.
Okay, now you're jumping off the deep end. We need to find the happy medium when we come back and reach out to April for your second date update. We'll do it right after this. Hold on. Second date update. We're in the middle of a second date update, and for maybe the first time ever, one of our listeners made a polite request of Brooke.
You're screaming already, and we're barely even up to date.
Well, whatever it is, I just hear this out.
Okay. All right. Well, even that, it's coming off a little harsh because he has asked if Brooke can please, if we get this girl on the phone, not make him sound like a total simp.
I'm just saying it's not that bad. Noah is a regular listener to our show and he's noticed that sometimes your sales pitch can make the guy sound a little bit desperate.
desperate already okay see this is not a good look right here no i can do this from what i could understand noah wants you to make him sound like he is just a regular dude who's a little confused just wants to know what's up but hey not a big deal either way no no is that right
Okay, well, no, we're going to try our best, but I'm dialing April's number right now. Here we go.
Hey, we're looking to speak with April.
Hey, April. Thanks for picking up the phone.
I don't know if you know us. We're a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
You're fine. What do I do with my hands? You don't have to say anything.
I'm so confused.
We do a segment on this show. It's called Second Date Update. Okay. Most people have that reaction when we tell them Second Date Update. But I don't know if you've heard of it.
Okay. You know, podcast and all that stuff aside, TikTok, whatever, what we're more focused on is one of our listeners who's been trying to get a hold of you. His name is Noah.
Yeah. And Brooke, why don't you tell April about Noah? Here we go.
There we go.
No, no. We're not supposed to have said that.
Okay, he has a little bit of stake in the game.
I can understand why you would think that, but that's not what's happening. We just want to know what your take was about your hangout with Noah the other day.
I think we get it. You didn't like his choice of date, and that's totally fine. You're allowed to feel that way. But we were more wondering, what did you think about Noah, like, as a person?
Gotcha. OK, April, I know this is kind of a weird thing where we just blindside you and ask you all these questions. So thank you for opening up to us. The one thing that you may or may not realize is Noah is also here on the other line listening to this conversation.
That's right. She only listens to part one on TikTok. This is actually the fun part, April, where Noah jumps in. Why am I being pranked? No, it's not a prank. It's not a prank.
Why are you complaining about people bringing you alcohol out of anybody's room?
Brooke, stay in your lane and keep not tipping people after they give you great service. Just shut up and talk on the radio, lady.
This is about Jordi. Jordi, she's concerned that you're too free and you're too available. Prove to her that that's not true.
Show her how busy and how much you got going on.
You know what? The thing is, we made him do it.
He didn't even want to be here.
But he was kind enough to take a little bit of time out to do this with us just so that I could ask you if you would like to see Jordy one more time and we would pay for that date. I don't even know if he's free, honestly. Jordy, are you even free? Not anymore. I'm all booked up for a while now.
Look in the mirror, sweetie.
Talking like Brooke now. This is not good.
You know what?
This is going bad. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Got a text into 78592 that says, with that outlook, I hope she's ready to die alone.
Yeah.
And the outlook that I think they're referring to is the theory that if a guy says he's available to hang out with you multiple nights in a row, that means he's a loser and must have absolutely nothing going on.
It also matters what you're busy doing.
Guys, just give up. It's going to be easier if you just quit. Because actually, they're going to feel more attracted to you that you've given up on them.
She speaks for all women, and now we know how it works.
who saw that coming but you know what if you need help with your dating life go ahead email the show we'll call that person who isn't calling you back and go check out all of our podcasts we are the home of the second date update wherever you get yours at brooke and jeffrey brooke and jeffrey in the morning 45 years ago a virginia soul band called the edge of daybreak recorded their debut album behind bars record collectors consider it a masterpiece
Second date update. The results are in. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Because recent studies have shown about 50% of couples now meet online compared to just 22% only five years ago.
Yeah.
So now going forward, Brooke, if you want to spice up the relationship with your husband, you're going to have to make him a dating profile.
Well, I think joke's on you. He already has one.
Apparently you guys are looking for a third right now, according to him. And we're not going to go into that because I want to talk right now to Jordy, the listener who wrote into our show, because apparently he met a girl out in real life, bucking all of the latest trends.
Jordy, good work. Welcome to the show. Hey, guys.
It's like you toss these big colorful balls onto a field, and then you try to toss other balls towards the balls.
Yeah, okay. So you said her name was Harper? Yeah, yeah. And she was actually a waitress there.
Oh. I assumed that she was going to be like playing in the stall next to you or something like that.
Yeah, totally. If you have good friends. If anything, it probably makes you look kind of good, Dirt, because you seem like a responsible guy.
I know, Brooke tries to get them to be the third in her relationship, and then it's so annoying.
But again, sorry, that is a conversation for another day. Tell us, how did you work Harper? That's not the right way.
Is that your only meetup or did you guys actually have a date? No, no, we had a date.
Okay, so you've had a solid first date. You kissed her at the end of it. She's the one saying, I can't wait to hang out again.
It's been like 10 days or so.
But what's happened in those 10 days? That's a long time. Have you asked her? Like, what have you done? Yeah.
Okay. Well, we can reach out to Harper for you and see if she agrees to going out with you one more time. If not, then you might have a backup option because Brooke and her husband, you know. But in the meantime.
Oh, that's right. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. You need to be able to keep some distance.
Sorry. But you know what? We'll work on Harper first and try and get you your second date update right after this.
We're in the middle of a second date update with our listener, Jordy. And Jordy likes cute waitresses at German bocce ball bars. He likes to mispronounce Keish Lorraine just to seem vulnerable and flawed.
Yeah, something. You said quickie? What did you say, Jordy? I said Quickie Loran. Quickie Loran.
And he really likes to receive texts saying, I can't wait to see you again. Because that's exactly what his date Harper said to him after they went out. So why is she not jumping at the chance to hang out again?
Jordi, you think there's another guy who mispronounces French words even worse than you do? Maybe that's her thing. Yeah, maybe.
That's hot.
Thank you.
Yeah, a lot of good guys insist how good they are.
So we're just going to trust you on that, and we're going to call Harper. Let's see if she answers, okay? I don't know you. I mean, you seem nice from a little bit of what we've spoken.
Hello? Hey, is this Harper?
We're a radio show calling called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
That half of the room isn't very excited to talk to you, obviously, but... I don't think she's excited to talk to us. This half of the room is.
What are you calling for?
We're working. This is something we do called a second date update, and one of our listeners named Jordy asked us to reach out to you.
We're just trying to help him out because according to Jordy, he says he's been putting in a lot of effort trying to figure out a good time that would work for you to meet up just because he felt like you guys bonded, connected.
You're calling him a loser because he gave you multiple options of times where he wants to hang out because he likes you?
It sounds like he's doing it for you because nowadays we hear from a lot of women who tell us guys don't put in enough effort. They want the easy thing. They don't really care. But Jordy sounds like the total opposite, like he's willing to do whatever just to see you.
But he's too available for you.
Okay. That was a red flag. Okay.
I don't want to tell you this because it's not that he's like super available to talk to you at any time. That's not what this is.
Just in the middle of his extremely hectic day, he's taken a little bit of time to jump on the phone right now to talk to you. Because Jordy's there. Hey, Harper.
So you've been on the phone?
I do tag him in every photo.
Maybe the promise was that she'll never take it off. Yeah. It doesn't have to be like another promise that we're thinking.
She's going to have like 10 rings after the end of all this.
Ooh, that'll burn.
No, we're not buying it. We can barely afford the date, bro.
Yeah. There it is.
I am like, why not?
She's obviously still caught up on her ex.
So what if they all have dates and times on them? Yeah.
Wow.
I actually like it. Once you take over the world, I don't think you have to go to work anymore. So it kind of would be helpful for everyone.
Yeah, I lost a bunch of weight, and I'm super buff now.
I don't know anyone that even calls himself a tenant. Good for you. And funny.
In a good way?
That is a silly, stupid hobby. Blame stupid. Who does karaoke?
It is cute.
I wonder if it is the ring. Like, just knowing someone's... I think it's not staying blonde. Yeah.
I only see green. I see all green. But you know what's good about red flags? You can cut little red hearts out of them.
Is that your motto?
I can turn that into love.
Congratulations.
Yeah. Yeah.
She's our friend.
Is that bad? Sounds like a nice one, though.
Yeah, that's true.
So it's like his way back in someday.
Yeah, it feels like it, right?
That is such a weird, you do not have to say that.
I know, but she's obviously not shy. She called a radio station and is here with us. Even outside of the other stuff.
I think that's a good choice, Donna.
I don't think Donna should tell him. I like what she's doing. I do too.
I mean, he is so certain who she is and doesn't have an open mind to see anything else. Donna, I'm guessing, doesn't feel like he deserves that knowledge.
Have you ever had a guy assume that about you before?
I like how hardcore he thought he was. Yeah. He's just crazy. I want to be there the day he finds out what you do. I know.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Yeah. It's really a learning moment to not judge people so quickly.
I don't think it was the cover that was the problem. It was just like her attitude.
What are you doing?
Oh! She did not.
Did she just try to get more subscribers?
Hey, it's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. You found the Second Date Podcast. Thanks for being here. Yeah.
No. Pretty easy to find, Brooke. Hey, and today one of our listeners kept a big secret from her date about who she was. We're going to get into that in just a second. But first, I got to shout out Onyx because they wrote and said, I got my merch and I'm obsessed. Cool. I love you all so much. And now I'm obsessed with you. Totally.
Hey, and thank you so much for everyone who is tagging us at Brooke and Jeffrey with pictures of their merch. I know the first shipment went out. Of course, merch for a cause. We got the second date update edition and 100% of proceeds. Go to a great charity. It's called Convoy of Hope. So please keep supporting. And they are so cute. You're also going to be obsessed. You can, of course, order.
The link is in the show notes, right?
There's options.
Yeah. There it is. All right. Order today. It's a limited time only. And let's get this show started.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, like the community tables. You know, like the big long ones where you kind of sit at the end.
Clean your mouth and then pass it over to the next person. He's stealing other people's napkins is what I think is happening.
That's cute.
No, just probably conversation, Jeff. That's probably all she shared, right, Donna? Yep, that's pretty much it. Okay. This is a good start.
Where did you... Yours are so unsanitary, Jeff.
Oh, okay. So you had like a picnic table sitting down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A fold-out table.
Eric. Eric, okay.
Is that how you struck up conversation?
I only date guys who eat Euros.
Cool.
So how long did you guys hang out together?
Why did you pause like that? I don't know.
Why would you not be able to say it? Is it about you?
Please say you're not married. Please say you're not married.
I'm even more intrigued. Okay, wait, you don't know if he knows or not? Would he be able to find it out on the Internet?
Okay, then he knows. Yeah, let's just get that over with.
Deep breath. You can say it. It's probably, honestly, like all this stuff is usually not as big of a deal as people think it is in their head. Right. I just don't want my mom to be listening or something. Oh, God. We're big with moms, so.
Yeah, we've heard that before.
Hey, we're an innocent until proven guilty type of show. Yeah, just tell us.
um i'm not only fans you're on only fans oh okay okay you know what i bet your mom doesn't even know what that is yeah i hope so okay like how like if you searched your name would it come up you know because he knows your name he could google you more importantly is like the content like is it is it pg-13 or is it something brooke just asked her to send you a link if you really got it okay is it pretty aggressive
And you're definitely going to have to tell him whether he knows now or not.
Wait, I thought I was getting their information. I get the free trial. I was nicer.
What? She's not interested in the colors. She likes Eric.
How will you handle it if it is an issue for him?
It is so nice to have a listener just be honest with us from the beginning. I don't think you understand how much easier this makes our job. It did take a lot to get it out of her. It doesn't matter.
It makes me feel so much less stressed going into this phone call, even though that's like a big, I mean, it's kind of a big thing.
It was such a sweet interaction. It was really felt genuine.
And if he brings it up, do you want us to admit then that we already know Donna? Or is that something then you just want to talk to him?
Yeah.
Okay. Okay. If he knows. Makes sense. If he found something online. Fair.
I mean, he's going to find out eventually if you ever talk about work. Like, it's your job.
Me? I work from home.
All right.
What up, man? Good morning. The whole show's here.
Sorry.
I think just show works. I'm okay. Okay, Eric. That's Brooke.
So awkward. Why are you so awkward? And there's also Alexis. I want to hear him talk.
Sounded like a cute date.
I thought it was really sweet that you guys didn't drink again either. Like you shared dessert. It sounds like you had great conversation.
Can you elaborate on that conservative part? Like what made her come off that way to you?
I feel you on that one. And you're really good at reading people. Right.
And you want, like, a wild woman.
Okay. Aren't you in for an adventure right now? Wow.
Buckle up.
Oh, yeah. Donna. Really?
Are you dying on the inside, Donna? Uh-huh. Yeah.
I'm telling you, it works for the Frank guys.
Bottom line, Jen, is we would love to pay, not love, but we will. We'll pay for the second date with Reese.
Did not see that coming. Blindsided by that one, I'm sure. Love is wild. At least you have a backup. You can always go back to your girlfriend.
He hasn't left his girlfriend yet. Plan B is his girlfriend.
Plan A. I don't know. Inviting two girls into the studio. This is why you're left alone. Man, I thought I knew what cheat voice sounded like. Because he didn't have cheater voice, but I was totally wrong.
But you know what? Give him some points, Brooke. Because he was honest, at least. Admitted that he had a girlfriend.
He got there. Got to the honesty.
Who cares about that? He was honest with us.
And yet, he was still trying to go out with Jen, even afterwards. See, it's that type of chutzpah that if I had back at the frat house, things would have turned out so much differently that night.
Yeah. Instead of the Valentine's Day mask, it could have been the Valentine's Day rodeo for me.
That's fine.
Yeah, I'll admire somebody else that calls in to get a second date update. Email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back and go check out all of ours. They're available up on podcasts wherever you get yours. Yeah. At Brooke and Jeffrey, home of the second date update.
Valentine's Day can be a dangerous holiday for a single person to try and meet someone.
You do. You put a lot of pressure on yourself for it to work. Just look at college-aged me and my infamous Valentine's Day massacre.
It started with a certain hunky frat boy inviting two lucky ladies to one party and ended with said frat boy drunk, alone in his room, crying and kicking a hole in the ceiling above his top bunk. Oh, God. Because he struck out with both ladies that night.
They missed out, clearly. Oh, yeah, they did. Just saying, dating around this particular holiday isn't always the best idea. And I'm not really sure how today's caller, Reese, feels about it. Reese, you have a bunch of holes in your house somewhere right now? Not for that reason.
Talent, I know.
Okay. You're going a little harsh.
Just to laugh at. Anyway, Reese, so you went out with a girl pretty close to Valentine's Day. Were you feeling the pressure? Not really, because I wasn't really thinking about it at that time.
So you invited two girls to one frat party. And that's when the good stuff happened.
You just took out Jen, though, right? Yeah. Yeah.
I get it. Okay, so where did you and Jen go?
Oh, that's cute. What does that mean?
I hate to keep drawing parallels between this and the Valentine's Day massacre at the frat, but it just keeps lining up.
It's a bad experience.
Yeah. This is a fun Valentine's Day party game. Everybody take your wallets out.
Probably not the right, yeah.
I don't think anybody would think that.
Let's see how empathetic this woman really is when we give Jen a call. Hopefully she picks up and see what she has to say when we do your Valentine's edition of Second Date Update right after this.
A Valentine's themed date that ends in the hospital. For some of us, wouldn't be the worst Valentine's that we've ever had.
It was for our listener, Reese, who was a diabetic and took a chance, drank a pink strawberry daiquiri during his date, thinking that he could handle just one. Fast forward to him being driven to the hospital by his date, Jen, where he had to be treated by doctors. It's all kind of a fuzzy experience to him because he was going through an episode.
But afterwards, Jen was gone and hasn't responded really to him since. But Brooke, you've had worse Valentine's recently, right? Give him a little bit of hope.
How do you feel about that, Reese?
Alexa, she needs to do more than that. My mom drives me to the hospital.
And I don't want from my mom what Reese wants from Jen, hopefully not.
Do you want us to speculate a hundred more things that could have gone wrong or should we just call this girl?
Please call her. Okay. Good choice. Good, solid. Let's dial Jen. We'll see if she answers. You just sit tight there. Here we go.
Hey, is this Jen?
Hey, Jen, this is a radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. How are you doing?
How are you guys?
That was kind of an empathetic move there.
So that's good news for you, Jen.
Okay, well, I'll give you five guesses.
Okay, that was unfair.
Oh, well, that's no fun. Oh, okay. Sure, we'll take the joy out of it. This is called Second Date Update, and we're trying to help out one of our listeners that you went out on a date with recently named Reese.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, we spoke to him a little bit just to get a snapshot of what happened that night. And he told us that you're not really responding for another date at all. And he doesn't really understand why.
Why do you think that?
Yeah. Because he was having an episode and you were like his savior.
Oh. Okay, objectively, it looks really bad. Yeah. Yeah. The thing is, obviously, we don't know everything about Reese and his situation.
I don't think it's like those things, but do you remember when we first talked and we mentioned that he went through a bad breakup with somebody a little while back? I forgot that. Maybe it's his, like, ex-girlfriend who's listed as his girlfriend.
Like, how often do you update your emergency contact stuff like that?
It's possible. I mean, we don't know. The thing is, we could ask Reese right now because he's been on the phone this whole time listening.
What the heck?
Okay. That could give us a little bit of clarity. Reese, are you there?
I mean, do we really have to talk about that?
It's pretty important to her and I think to all of our listeners at this point.
Just say it was your ex-girlfriend and we're good. Jeff!
You were just joking again. If it's radio, you're saying girlfriend.
Are you saying that him telling you how sad he is doesn't make you want to date him right now? That usually works.
It's a little far, Jen, although we understand the sentiment.
Because the thing is, Jen could be his new girlfriend if she says yes to this question.
He was only asking because he thought that you were super interested in it. But that was a different Jessica Bumble.
Yeah, I think I remember that from a year and a half ago. Or was that the other Jessica Bumble, like Jessica Bumble number four?
Oh, that's right.
What is it?
It did, yeah. I'll go out again.
I think they're so cute. Well, congratulations, you two. You're going out again. And it's probably a good lesson for you, Dustin. You got to put the year that you matched with the person next to their names in your contacts.
See, that's why we do the second date updates. Jessica said she didn't know what to do. She was caught mid-date with a guy who thought that she was somebody else.
But it was like super awkward. Like, how do you even bring that up? The thing is, she wasn't a total stranger. They'd matched 18 months before that. And like we heard, they seem to be actually pretty cute together.
Is there a part of me that thinks Dustin is texting the other Jessica right now? The one that he ghosted a week ago?
Let's remember he is a guy, and we're addicted to the chase. But hopefully he can just focus on the current Jessica and the good thing that they have going on right now.
If you ask me, and Brooke, you'll probably agree with this. Okay. The dating world needs more ultimatums.
Ever. I think maybe we need them because the more listeners we talk to, everybody seems so indecisive. all right so wishy-washy like oh maybe i'll date her or maybe that other hot girl or maybe i'll just stick with my wife i don't really know wait a minute i'm stuck on the fence here ultimatum suddenly sounding good huh bro
That's why I appreciate somebody who's actually willing to lay all their cards down on the table and say, this is it. Take it or leave it. And apparently that's how our listener Dustin rolls. Ultimatum style. Well, that's the vibe I got from his email. Dustin, welcome to the show.
Yeah. Tell me if I was wrong, but it sounds like you like to play the dating game a little bit more straightforward.
If you don't do that, you'll get strung along for weeks and months and maybe never even end up meeting that person.
Yeah, dating runs on deadlines. And so that's good. You gave Jessica the dating deadline?
So once it got off of the apps, how did you and Jessica vibe?
Overall, though, you liked what you saw in person. Yeah, she was cute.
Oh, yeah. Oh, that's true. Sunglasses now cover like 70% of the face. You can barely tell who they are. So now that we've covered the crazy... Take some off.
Now that we've covered all the crazy parts of the date, bring us to the boring, you know, mushy stuff.
That's my favorite part. Jose wants to know how the rest of the date went.
That's what I'm thinking, too.
But Alexis, you put stuff in your profile that you don't actually care much about. It's more of like a... I love sports.
But she also says that she enjoys baseball, even though she thinks it has a halftime in it.
So, how long has it been since you last spoke to Jessica? It's been like six days. Oh no.
Let's try and keep the great times going when we come back and we give this girl another ultimatum.
I am. It's either go out with Dustin now or lose him forever.
It just sounds more scary if you say ultimatum. It is a scary word. We're going to come back and do it with your second date right after this. Hold on.
Today's Second Date Update begs the question, can you fully trust what you see in someone's dating profile? Because our listener Dustin met up with a woman from Bumble who looked a little different than her picture.
Like a good different, and even though her bio talked about Pilates a lot, she didn't really want to discuss it much on their date. Which is kind of strange, but to be fair, my old dating profile said I'm Jewish. But any woman who met up with me would discover I'm not kosher and not good with money. So probably equally confusing.
Yeah. I mean, you can't trust it fully from a dating profile. The good news is Dustin, despite the differences, really had a good time with her. Yeah. He felt like they vibed in ways he hasn't in the two years that he has spent on this app before.
Well, her fingers are crossed right now when she said that.
Okay, my bad. I feel like there is some part of Brooke that really is rooting for you today.
Hello? Hey, is this Jessica?
I know. It's so nice to talk to someone who's like positive and perky when we talk to them because we're doing a second date update.
And this segment is called Second Date Update. I don't know if you've heard it before, but it's a thing where if somebody blows you off and you're not sure why, we can try to call that person for you to maybe figure out if there's a reason for it.
Yeah. Because six days ago, you went out with a guy who, at least according to him, felt like you had a really good connection. Afterwards, he feels like you've been pulling away a little bit. His name is Dustin.
No, no.
Right? You did meet up.
That seems like a big miscommunication. What about the date?
You think that he went out with the wrong Jessica or texted the wrong Jessica in his phone?
Even though you had to keep dodging his questions about Pilates?
So this makes sense why Dustin told us that she didn't look like the pictures from the girl that he matched with a couple of weeks ago.
Well, yeah, I guess that's it. Sorry. No, no.
I guess the other option is, if you are interested, Dustin has been listening to this call on the other phone line.
If he hasn't fainted already. Dustin, are you there? Holy shit. I can't believe this happened. I'm such an idiot.
Is that very, very important to you if you're going to go out with her again? Like I said, guys, I really like it.
We are the weirdos in this conversation. He is totally normal. Well.
I'm starting to like this even more. No, Jeff. I'm very curious just as an experiment to see how this second interaction would go between Carly and Ethan both wearing the same scent.
Sure.
Ethan, the whole reason that we called you is to ask if you would see Carly one more time for a date and we would pay for it.
You are. OK. And Carly, are you still up for this, even despite what you've heard?
I'll give it a whirl. I'm a little bit surprised. Yeah, me too.
Way better than if he had said she had dragon thumbs.
No, you can't. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Man, I'm just really happy that she didn't overreact. When she jumped in kind of loud at first, I thought like, oh no, this is it. It's over. We're not going to come back.
It was like you said, like it was kind of our felt because he confessed that he liked her and he felt comfortable enough with us to confide that the perfume thing was supposed to be a gift. And then the ex-girlfriend also used to wear it.
Yeah, that's true. I like to think that it's more about how comfortable people are around us that they're willing to open up. Not that he just has a blabber mouth.
So let's give credit to Carly, who was able to hear him out and separate the ex from the smell and agree to a very, very pungent second date.
They're going to bathe in it. Yeah, they're going to be gas masks when they meet up. But text in to 78592 and email the show if you ever feel like you need a little bit of help in your dating life. We can call that person who's not calling you back. And go check out all of our second dates wherever you get your podcasts at Brooke and Jeffrey.
Just like her kids.
Second Date Update. Brooke, your husband is a collector of sports cards.
Does that make you more attracted to him or super more attracted?
I don't know what that means.
You just rub that card all over your body, don't you?
I bring it up because one of our listeners says that the guy that she went out with mentioned that he is a collector of items. Oh, that's cool. And it stopped her in her tracks.
We'll find out more about that in just a second. But first, let's talk to Carly here. Carly, you said in your email that the guy's name is Ethan. How did you meet him?
Oh, okay. Well, let's go chronologically then. Before we get to the collecting of stuff, tell us more about Ethan and what attracted you to him.
The fact that he could cook at all, even if it is just okay, is impressive.
Okay. So did your date involve cooking?
All right. So tell us about what happened.
In the build up to the actual first meeting. So what did you guys actually do when you went out?
All right. And how was the chemistry between you and Ethan?
Well, I slam the door in their face. We all have different styles of dating.
Well, I don't want to get in the way of your womanhood and do anything like that. I'm just trying to equal. We're equal in the workplace is all I'm saying. Open your own door. Okay, but you thought that he was being a real gentleman on this date with you, Carly.
How did you feel about it, Carly?
We all just blew out a big sigh of relief. All right.
Although, just to be clear, there's nothing wrong with having emotional support ducks if anybody out there does that.
Rubber ducks, whatever it is.
Okay.
So you're thinking that at the end of the night, the kiss was a pity kiss.
Even though like he didn't approve of your snort. He was like, OK, fine. I'll still just, you know.
That is very, very personal information to share about somebody on the radio. He calls people dragon thumbs. Okay, we're not trying to body shame anybody.
Carter, is it possible that he's not calling you back because you've got dragon thumbs?
It's Brooke's theory.
Look like it kind of looks like a big toe yeah, yeah long clock Let's just okay enough about the dragon body parts. Let's call this Ethan guy We'll see if he picks up and we will ask him all the questions to figure out why he's not going out with you one more Time Carly gonna get your second date update right after this second date update You're the one
If you're just joining us, I'm playing this song because our listener Carly went out with a guy named Ethan who told her that he collects rubber ducks. And he made the joke that he keeps them as emotional support pets. Again, just a joke. But he does collect them. Which begs the question, how bad do you feel when even the rubber duck guy won't call you back?
Do you consider this your rock bottom, Carly?
That's true. There is more phone call to come, so we can always think lower.
You see how much she struggled to get that sentence out? That was really inspiring.
Well, that's really motivated me to try super hard for you. Let me get a hundred percent effort into this. I'm dialing his number right now. Let's see if he picks up. Here we go.
Let's see. Here we go. Hello. Hey, we're looking to talk with Ethan. Okay. This is Ethan. Hey, Ethan.
Who's this? Hello? Yeah, this is a radio show called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Very dysfunctional team.
We are together, and we're here doing a segment called A Second Date Update.
Yeah, so it's a segment where we help out listeners who've gone out on a date with somebody, but the second date hasn't materialized yet. We try and figure out why or if there's a reason. So we're doing that for one of our listeners that you went out with named Carly.
She mentioned you were a funny guy. It's coming across, dude.
I know this is a weird situation to be in, but Carly is seriously confused because she says she had a great time with you, but she's not seeing the same amount of effort from you as she was before the date.
We're not sure if anything's changed.
Yes. So it sounds like you do want to go out with her again?
That's interesting.
You have a price tag that you can attach to it. Alexis needs to know.
You know, that's interesting.
Yeah, what made you do that? Is it like a birthday coming up for her or something?
You bought it because it's the same as your ex's perfume? Bro. Wait a second.
Yeah, that's Carly. That's on the other line listening to this. That's how this works. We usually call her in.
That would have been much sweeter.
I think it's a good question. Why? Why do you want Carly to be wearing that same perfume?
Stop trying to change men with every sentence that you say.
Okay, I'm trying to read this and help you out here, Ethan. You're saying you didn't buy it because it reminds you of your ex. You're buying it just because you like the scent itself.
Carly, are you hearing him?
Literally, it could have been anybody. If his mailman had been wearing the perfume, it would have driven him mad.
Randall, you hear that? She is willing to fight for you. Hey.
So she is willing to do whatever it takes, it sounds like, to help you be your Sherpa through your romantic life.
Let's get the boxing gloves on and get this going because Georgina, we want to send you and Randall out on another day and we'll pay for it if you say yes.
I look forward to it. Okay. And how much money do you want him to send you, Georgina, before this date happens?
It is true love. Yeah, there we go. Oh, my gosh. The universe did it. Congratulations, you two. You're going out on another date.
That's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. Hey, look at that. We actually got a yes today.
Yeah, the thing is it wasn't necessarily a romantic yes, but the opportunity for romance is there.
Yeah. I just think you're right. He needs to not talk to another woman ever. Yeah. Because he falls in love with everyone. Yeah, who said that? Because it does feel like everybody Randall meets or talks to, he immediately falls for. So, Brooke, make sure to check your DMs tomorrow. Because there's probably a message in there that says, the way you handled that second date was just magnanimous.
Perhaps the universe willed this call into existence just so I could hear your beautiful, nasally voice and find my true compass.
Those were Randall's words.
Yes. You can hear all of our lovely voices for hours on end. If you listen to our Second Aid Update podcast, wherever you get yours, just search Brooke and Jeffrey.
And food, or you give me food.
In this segment, there's a lot of logic that goes into our thinking about whether a pair should be together or not. We're always asking, like, is that fair? Does that make sense? But I think there's not enough heart in our decision making. Because love isn't always rational. We need to start thinking with that other body part.
Let's think with that. And we've got a guy on the phone who's got a whole lot of heart going on. His name is Randall.
It's not if you think with your heart, Brooke. So, Randall, after just reading your email, I hope whatever the universe gives you here today, you accept with open arms.
Oh, good, man.
Some of us are more emotional and heart-driven in this room.
That's a very analytical, pessimistic way to look at me as a person.
Okay, just accept me for who I am deep inside and not for what I say.
Randall, you're with me here. So tell us about your situation. It sounds like it's a little bit complicated.
Dude, that's terrible. Oh, man. We all hate Vietnamese fake girl now. So where are you in your love life now? I still kind of like her.
Okay. We're throwing logic out the window, all rationale. We are only listening to our hearts. Yes.
Are we calling this girl up in the Philippines right now?
Okay.
Just learn to control it. Can we know more about Georgina at the bar?
Yeah. Anyway, what's your dog's name? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Back it off.
Also, he's a guy that clearly operates through grand romantic gestures, and what better way to do a big gesture to Georgina than to have a radio show call and gauge how she feels about him in a cosmic sort of way.
Again, there's that analytical, rational, logical talk that nobody wants to hear.
Exactly. So stop overthinking it, and let's just call this lady and see where her heart is at when we do the second date update right after this. We're in the middle of your second date update. And if you missed the first part, the universe was brought up a lot.
Because our listener Randall has put his fate into our hands saying we are the universe. And I guess that makes Brooke Uranus.
And the rest of us are stars.
Here's the situation. Hold on, Jeff. Randall's been heartbroken before. He flew to Vietnam to meet a woman. Ended up getting catfished there. Yeah.
Fell for another lady from the Philippines.
He has not met her yet, not even FaceTime, but in his heart, he feels that their connection is true. He's in love. He said he's in love with her. Absolutely. Randall, on a scale of 1 out of 10, how serious are you about Philippines Girl?
Can I recommend not the first plane? Because it's going to be a very expensive flight. Yeah. Good point, Jose.
That's why.
I think we just let the universe take control of the conversation. We're not going to plan anything out. I'm just going to start dialing the numbers.
Zip it, Uranus. We've got a universal business to attend to here.
You wish.
That's a bird. Damn. Let's just make this call.
Yeah, you want me to be. Anyway, here we go.
Hi, we're looking to speak with Georgina.
This is a morning radio show. We're called Brooke and Jeffrey, and we are very eager to speak with you today. Brooke, take it away.
We actually got it from that guy, Randall. And in this segment that we're doing, we're just trying to gauge and see how things go. So we're just trying to pry a little bit and ask you, you know, how was your date? How was the hangout?
We don't know what happened at the end. He didn't mention that. Was there like a kiss?
Do you think there's any chance maybe it was just a line, like a little hard-to-get line to play towards you to make himself seem a little bit more desirable? It sounds like someone who's about to get married and having second guesses. Or it sounds like a good joke. Like, how wild would it be if he really was engaged? Like, obviously he's kidding. Yeah.
I mean... We could replace it with some new sentences that he wants to say to you right now because he is listening to this phone call. I need to talk to her. I need to say something.
Yeah, sorry. He's on the phone. That's how this segment works. We have been waiting.
Probably just for a new phone so that they could text more. You said she needed help, and I try to be a good person.
Brooke, why don't you ever step in and tell Randall any of this stuff earlier?
I don't see it as a sad thing at all. What?
You give money to random people you've never met either for, and you call it charity, Brooke? And all of a sudden, you're a good person? Yeah. Like, I'm sorry. He's just, he's got a big heart. He has a lot of hope and optimism and he's willing to do whatever it takes to make love happen in his life. And he's willing to put himself out there, even put himself on the radio like this.
Yes. Now that we've really sold him, we'd love to offer to send you guys out on another date, Jenna, and we would pay for it. I mean, he has finally come clean. He's told you the truth. And no more games going forward, at least not from Evan's part.
Reverse psychology does work.
Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. I don't think there's any way she would have said yes if Evan didn't finally come clean and just be honest about his true feelings at the end there.
It's a win for nice guys everywhere, and he's lucky that for some weird reason, she just liked him for who he was.
Yep. Confirming what we're saying. Exactly. I see what you mean.
No! He's just too nice.
Yeah, that's right. But you know what? If you're a nice guy or if you're a bad boy or anything in between, we will help you with your dating life. Email the show. We'll call that person who's not calling you back. Go check out all of our second dates wherever you get your podcasts at Brooke and Jeffrey and on YouTube.
It's the crux of dating with all the apps now.
And I think it was intended in a good way to match people up who would have never found each other if they were just left to their normal lives. But more often than not, it just ends up being with you have so many choices. Men and women can't make up their mind. They can't commit to just one.
And if they're not blown away immediately, there's, you know, 20 other options that they can just go explore.
And the thing is, that's where our listener Evan is at right now. He claims he is a victim of being just one guy in a sea of a billion dudes.
There's positives and negatives to it, but Evan, welcome to the show. Hey, guys.
So what is your stance on dating right now? Like, where are you at?
It doesn't bode well for Brooke's married life. She focuses a lot on that one guy. That's so funny. So, Evan, you're not focusing on just one. You're dating a lot of different people.
There you go.
So where do you and Jenna stand?
correct she is interested that's what i believe oh what okay this is different i guess let's hear him out so this girl try not to think game he's playing games in my head right now it's not a game but it is reverse psychology oh that works so good on me did it just work on you it's like i'm trying to figure this out i'm not gonna tell you i love it all right you already have brooks interest now so what is your idea for reverse psychology with jenna
Why do you want to do it this way with Jenna?
Yeah.
He wants to flip the script on these women and he wants to be in the power position Being like hey like I think you're cool and everything, but I don't know if it's there Then the girl will have to sell herself to him You sound like a genuinely nice guy, and that's probably why this is Did you see Alexis gag when you said genuinely nice guy?
I have nothing to lose at this point, trust me. Okay. I mean, it is a bold move, you have to admit.
Yeah.
She's going to turn.
Exactly. Let's not get caught up in the minutia of who she is as a person. I don't know if this strategy would actually work. It sounds kind of manipulative, similar to one of my co-hosts and they're happily married. So it might actually be a good strategy at the end of the day.
But you know what? He is on the other line right now. So, like, maybe if you want to try to convince him to go out, he might be up for it.
No, I think Evan wants to be in control here.
We're just going to be super noncommittal about it and let Evan swoop in.
It's an interesting experiment at the very least, and we're going to find out how it goes when we call her in your second date update right after this. Hold on, man.
If you're just joining us for the second date, our listener, Evan, has asked us to do something that we've never really tried on this segment before.
No. It's probably too smart for our simple brains to grasp.
But he wants us to call his date Jenna. And instead of saying, he had a lot of fun with you, he really likes you, he wants to see you again, coming on kind of strong, even me saying that,
well that's just normal are you giving yourself the ick i kind of am even that it does feel like a lot that's why instead evan wants us to say he reached out but he's kind of on the fence about it not really sure how he feels so i don't know how are you feeling about him oh man basically reverse psychology jenna into loving him i'm gonna be so disheartened if this works like you can't just be open with your emotions anymore
No. Evan has been rejected so many times, he's tired of being put on that side of the conversation. He wants to have the upper hand this time.
He's trying to stop the cycle of what's going on in his life. Right, Evan? It's time I got to stand up for the pack, you know?
Exactly. So you're doing something new. And he thinks that if he does it this way, then she's going to be more open to not just a second date, but the third date, the fourth date.
It's a good question, but I think we just have to play kind of noncommittal and more just ask her about what she thinks about the day. We'll just go right to that.
Deafening silence from the room. Okay, here we go.
Okay, let's try it. Hello? Hey, is this Jenna? Jenna? This is. Who's calling? We're a radio show, actually, called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Hi. Thanks for picking up. We're doing a segment on our show. You may have heard of it before. It's called A Second Date Update.
Yeah, this is a little bit different than what we normally do, but we got an email from one of our listeners that you went out with. His name's Evan.
Yeah. Remember going out with Evan? I do. Okay. Yeah, I do. Evan emailed our show. He told us that the two of you went out and, you know, he had a decent time. He's considering seeing you again, but he is kind of on the fence about it.
He said that.
He's just he.
Yeah. Like he enjoyed the date. No question about it. But the future, he's a little bit uncertain of.
Yeah. His heart is congested.
Wait. He's got a lot of... I don't know.
That's not what I meant. He doesn't know where his mind is at 100%. He's trying to figure stuff out.
I thought everything was... Did he say specifically that he liked you or did you just feel the vibe?
It would make it a whole lot easier if
No, sometimes it's hard to know how people feel. Sometimes you're reading signs. You're reading them wrong. No, no. We had a great time. We even kissed. Okay, well, that's good. Tell us more stuff like that. Like, what exactly happened on the date? We'll give us more indications of why you think he liked you.
Maybe you thought that he liked you, but he never actually said that to you. Could just be like a vibe that you were getting.
I'm going to share something with our audience that's happened behind the scenes here. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.
Okay. Well, maybe the vibe that you're feeling from him is the literal phone line connection that is happening right now because he is listening to this call.
I will say he does want to talk to you, though. What?
I don't remember if Brooke has said this on the air. And it's not bad, but off the air. Whenever somebody brings up online dating, Brooke's response, and Jose, Alexis, you can confirm this. She's always like, oh, I don't think I could ever do online dating. There's just, there's way too many options. How could you ever just pick one guy?
Evan, you're saying you're saying that she's saying that she likes you, but you're not sure if you believe that.
Oh, okay.
Jenna, maybe you have to show him a little bit more strongly that the feelings are there, that it's worth it.
You see, one date they're saying they like him and then all of a sudden something switches and they're like, no, I'm not.
Jenna, you may not realize this now, but after three dates with him, you would realize that you weren't into him.
Unless we're wrong. You're welcome. Unless we're wrong. Because normally at this time, I would offer to send you guys out and we would pay for it. But I kind of have a vibe that both of you are still on the fence. At least Evan is. You might want to plead your case to him right now, Jenna, and ask Evan out.
I want a partner who will fight for me.
That's respectable, I think. Oh, boy. Are you willing to fight for him, Jenna, right now? To be honest with you, no.