Jeffrey Ladish

Mine children.

But they're growing up.

And we don't know anywhere near enough that we need to know to actually have any guarantee of safety or robustness if these systems get smarter than us, which is the plan.

And so I'm frankly terrified because companies are going to do it unless someone stops them.

You don't know what you mean.

I think there has to be some authority that says, hey, cut it out.

This is too far.

And many people at these companies agree that this would be desirable.

They're like, please, someone step in and say, at some point, this is too far.

But often what they say is, well, if we don't do it, someone worse will do it.

And so we have to do it.

Yeah, you can look at our website, palisaderesearch.org.

You can follow us on Twitter at palisadeai.

Um, and yeah, well, we're excited to keep doing research in the trenches and excited to share, you know, what we find.

Um, hopefully next time, you know, I'll have some good news, but, uh, for now.

Yeah.

Thanks for having me on.