Jeffrey Sachs

Expanded parts of the region.

And when you interviewed Ambassador Huckabee, the U.S.

ambassador to Israel, he put it very clearly that the great zealots, including Huckabee and many of the Israeli leaders, view greater Israel as...

control from a big slice of Egypt all the way to Iraq from what is taken to be even a biblical gift of God to the ancient Israelites from the river of Egypt to the great river of Mesopotamia, meaning the Euphrates River.

So Israel wants military dominance.

The clean break idea was when we aim for that, we'll find resistance.

We don't fight and extinguish the militant groups because we can't.

We have to fight the governments that back them.

And that's where the idea of perpetual war in the Middle East came from.

Or not perpetual war, but...

Actually, specifically, seven wars were designated that would overthrow governments supporting Palestinian militancy.

And those governments were Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.

And we've now been pulled into Israel's seven wars.

Six of those wars have led to bloodbaths and disasters from Libya still in civil war, Sudan

unbelievably, in two civil wars because we broke the country apart and each of those two parts now has its own civil war.

Somalia, there's not even a government.

There is a government, actually a very nice prime minister that I know, but barely governance in the country.

Lebanon, we see it's an invaded country.

basically destroyed country.

Syria, the U.S.