Jeffrey Sachs

And they've done it repeatedly in front of our eyes. So it's not the harshest enemy you try to kill. It's the one that... threatens you not with war, but with diplomacy. That's what they dislike. They don't want peace. They want primacy. This is really a different thing. Where is it getting us?

Since the whole thing is completely delusional, it's getting us closer and closer to nuclear annihilation. How could anyone think you'd kill the president of a nuclear superpower? Of course, it's the most mind-boggling thing wrong-headed idea. I have no information about that. What I do have information about is the ones that they actually kill. By the way, I also know through lots of

Since the whole thing is completely delusional, it's getting us closer and closer to nuclear annihilation. How could anyone think you'd kill the president of a nuclear superpower? Of course, it's the most mind-boggling thing wrong-headed idea. I have no information about that. What I do have information about is the ones that they actually kill. By the way, I also know through lots of

Since the whole thing is completely delusional, it's getting us closer and closer to nuclear annihilation. How could anyone think you'd kill the president of a nuclear superpower? Of course, it's the most mind-boggling thing wrong-headed idea. I have no information about that. What I do have information about is the ones that they actually kill. By the way, I also know through lots of

Lots of discussions, and I can't go into all of them because I just have been lucky to have fascinating discussions. Iran has been asking for peace and for reaching out to the Biden administration for the last two years. How do we take that? Oh, they must be vulnerable. Now we must kill them. That's the idea. It's so weird. Iran is reaching out for peace now. Iran has been for two years.

Lots of discussions, and I can't go into all of them because I just have been lucky to have fascinating discussions. Iran has been asking for peace and for reaching out to the Biden administration for the last two years. How do we take that? Oh, they must be vulnerable. Now we must kill them. That's the idea. It's so weird. Iran is reaching out for peace now. Iran has been for two years.

Lots of discussions, and I can't go into all of them because I just have been lucky to have fascinating discussions. Iran has been asking for peace and for reaching out to the Biden administration for the last two years. How do we take that? Oh, they must be vulnerable. Now we must kill them. That's the idea. It's so weird. Iran is reaching out for peace now. Iran has been for two years.

I talked to an intermediary recently. I've talked to many diplomats in the last, in most recent months. By the way, there's an astoundingly, oh my God, an astoundingly insightful, episode that was reposted of PBS NewsHour with Robert McNeil interviewing Henry Kissinger and Jack Matlock in 1994. So this is the 30th anniversary of this show. And the show was on NATO enlargement.

I talked to an intermediary recently. I've talked to many diplomats in the last, in most recent months. By the way, there's an astoundingly, oh my God, an astoundingly insightful, episode that was reposted of PBS NewsHour with Robert McNeil interviewing Henry Kissinger and Jack Matlock in 1994. So this is the 30th anniversary of this show. And the show was on NATO enlargement.

I talked to an intermediary recently. I've talked to many diplomats in the last, in most recent months. By the way, there's an astoundingly, oh my God, an astoundingly insightful, episode that was reposted of PBS NewsHour with Robert McNeil interviewing Henry Kissinger and Jack Matlock in 1994. So this is the 30th anniversary of this show. And the show was on NATO enlargement.

And Matlock, who was the U.S. ambassador to the Soviet Union and a wonderful diplomat and a very, very smart, fine man, was saying in 1994, don't provoke. We have peace now. Don't expand NATO. We've said we won't. We shouldn't. And if Russia ever becomes belligerent again, of course, we would reconsider and take action. But right now, there's no belligerency whatsoever.

And Matlock, who was the U.S. ambassador to the Soviet Union and a wonderful diplomat and a very, very smart, fine man, was saying in 1994, don't provoke. We have peace now. Don't expand NATO. We've said we won't. We shouldn't. And if Russia ever becomes belligerent again, of course, we would reconsider and take action. But right now, there's no belligerency whatsoever.

And Matlock, who was the U.S. ambassador to the Soviet Union and a wonderful diplomat and a very, very smart, fine man, was saying in 1994, don't provoke. We have peace now. Don't expand NATO. We've said we won't. We shouldn't. And if Russia ever becomes belligerent again, of course, we would reconsider and take action. But right now, there's no belligerency whatsoever.

There's no reason to provoke. Kissinger is incoherent, actually, which is unusual. But Robert McNeil kind of can't even fathom what Kissinger is saying until Kissinger finally stumbles out with the statement, and I won't get it exactly right, but he says something to the effect, if you can't provoke Russia when they're weak, how are we going to provoke them when they're strong?

There's no reason to provoke. Kissinger is incoherent, actually, which is unusual. But Robert McNeil kind of can't even fathom what Kissinger is saying until Kissinger finally stumbles out with the statement, and I won't get it exactly right, but he says something to the effect, if you can't provoke Russia when they're weak, how are we going to provoke them when they're strong?

There's no reason to provoke. Kissinger is incoherent, actually, which is unusual. But Robert McNeil kind of can't even fathom what Kissinger is saying until Kissinger finally stumbles out with the statement, and I won't get it exactly right, but he says something to the effect, if you can't provoke Russia when they're weak, how are we going to provoke them when they're strong?

And it's just such a weird idea that there's no moment when you could actually try to make peace because if they're weak, definitely don't make peace because if you try not to provoke them then, well, then you won't be credible when they're strong. And so the idea is you always must be aggressive. So Kissinger was saying in 1994, of course we need to expand NATO.

And it's just such a weird idea that there's no moment when you could actually try to make peace because if they're weak, definitely don't make peace because if you try not to provoke them then, well, then you won't be credible when they're strong. And so the idea is you always must be aggressive. So Kissinger was saying in 1994, of course we need to expand NATO.

And it's just such a weird idea that there's no moment when you could actually try to make peace because if they're weak, definitely don't make peace because if you try not to provoke them then, well, then you won't be credible when they're strong. And so the idea is you always must be aggressive. So Kissinger was saying in 1994, of course we need to expand NATO.

And yes, Russia won't like it, but they're weak now so they can't resist. Later on, by the way, he came to understand.