Jeffrey Sachs

1974.

And that was actually 74, 75. It'll be the 50th anniversary this coming year. of the church committee. It was the only time that there was even a partial look inside what the CIA had been doing. What they uncovered was a viper's nest of...

stupidity evil disaster and of course unbelievable unaccountability they uncovered of course numerous assassination plots they uncovered an absolutely shocking and awful program called MK ultra which was a massive warped program to for trying for mind control where they took innocent people vagrants off the streets of Times Square and

Shot them up with drugs or drove them to suicide through sleep deprivation. Every kind of shocking thing you can't even make up. And that made for great movie series like the Bourne series, which is about MKUltra, in fact. Now, that was 1975. We've gone 50 years of further... Secretive operations, I've mentioned one of them, the timber sycamore. But that's one of many.

I've seen many myself by accident because I'm not in the security field. I'm an economist. But... I'm around lots of governments. I'm all over the world. I've seen coups with my own eyes. I've seen the U.S. role in these coups. I've seen things that are absolutely disgusting, not because people are showing me secret documents. I don't even want to see those, by the way.

I see them because I happen to... Be told or shown or walked around the Maidan soon after a coup overthrew Yanukovych. And people explain things to me, which I found completely awful about American complicity in all of this. I had a president. in the Western Hemisphere, say to me, Jeff, they're going to take me out. And I said, no, no, no, no, we're going to, everything's going to be fine.

And they, CIA took them out in broad daylight. And so we have no idea review of any of this we have gone to war repeatedly on false pretenses we have gone to war repeatedly in so-called covert operations they're not covert to the people being affected well that's right but we

just hear denials we hear stupidity from from the new york times a complete imbecility childishness that they don't want to ask any single question what about the maidan what was the u.s government doing there well it's easy enough to find out what were the decisions taken in overthrowing various regimes what about

A number of assassinations that we have every forensic reason to know were conspiracies that the U.S. never allowed to be understood. Whether any of this is ever found, I don't know. But if it is, it would change the course of America back to a true republic. Because what happened in this country is that we were overtaken by the security state.

And we became a system of confidentiality and unaccountability. And it's a big, massive machine. And a lot of people are paid to keep quiet or to salute whatever the military industrial complex or the intelligence agencies are doing without asking questions. Because when you have one and a half trillion dollars a year spent on that, you're a pretty big business.

And it has affected the universities, the think tanks, of course, the Congress, which asked no questions of any serious kind. And so major, major events of fundamental significance for our insecurity take place without any truth telling at all. So all of this is to say that,

It may be the most important thing that President Trump could do would be to open up the historical record so that we understand what has really happened because we are 90 seconds to midnight. We are closer to nuclear war than ever. We have a military machine.

in the service of the israel lobby or in the service of the military contractors or in the service of the deep state on its own or for whatever other crazy idea and we just don't have democratic deliberation or accountability about this but we could if we did we would change the direction of this country

they don't they obviously don't do their job but what they do is very interesting our system of government is is actually rather ingenious it's ingenious because you can buy a piece of government at very low cost if the military industrial contractors just buy off a couple committees that's enough because they're the only ones that have responsibility.

If the health insurers just buy off the health committees in the House and the Senate, that's enough. If the Israel lobby just gets its hold on a couple of committees, they run American foreign policy in the Middle East. So what I have found to be ingenious about our completely corrupted policy political system is how inexpensive it is to buy your corner of the story. You don't control everything.

No one controls everything. But if you want to control health care, it's a couple of committees. If you want to control the military industrial machinery, that's just a couple of committees. And so There is no oversight, and there won't be oversight until there is public oversight.

Nobody oversees themselves, and the idea that a few congressmen, and I know some of them, that they're really constraining anything that the CIA or the intelligence community does – No way. We've talked about it before. Well, they're puppets. They're puppets of it. Completely. And they're funded. They need some scrutiny. They're funded by it. They're puppets of it.

There are almost no independent members of our Congress. Almost everyone is on the take side. Rand Paul is my one exception. I think he's the most principled member of our Congress in both houses. He really believes in honesty and small government and wants to know the truth. And I'll give an example of the complete truth. lack of oversight and something we may know and something we talked about.

Okay, where did that pandemic come from? The evidence is now overwhelming, though still not definitive, that it was made in a U.S. lab. This is overwhelming. Even the report of the House committee that issued a report a couple of weeks ago says, yes, there was obviously a lot of cover-up and And a lot of unanswered questions and a lot of engagement of U.S. scientists in this.

And we know that the U.S. government lied up the wazoo on all of the question of the origin of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that made the pandemic, and has lied until today. We know that the intelligence agencies know a lot that they haven't said. So this is another area. Could we actually have some... Some honesty. Could we actually have some transparency?