Jeffrey Wasserstrom
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And you could say, well, look, and after 1989, the Chinese economy boomed Life got better for people in China. Life got really terrible for a lot of people in the former Soviet blocs. Maybe we actually, maybe this was the right way to go. And you can make that kind of argument, but if you show the tanks and the man in front of the tanks, you just have a different kind of image of heroism.
And you could say, well, look, and after 1989, the Chinese economy boomed Life got better for people in China. Life got really terrible for a lot of people in the former Soviet blocs. Maybe we actually, maybe this was the right way to go. And you can make that kind of argument, but if you show the tanks and the man in front of the tanks, you just have a different kind of image of heroism.
And you could say, well, look, and after 1989, the Chinese economy boomed Life got better for people in China. Life got really terrible for a lot of people in the former Soviet blocs. Maybe we actually, maybe this was the right way to go. And you can make that kind of argument, but if you show the tanks and the man in front of the tanks, you just have a different kind of image of heroism.
It's so interesting to just speculate and we just don't know because, you know, he was never able to be interviewed afterwards. But I think your emphasis on patriotism is really important because one of the students' main demands was
It's so interesting to just speculate and we just don't know because, you know, he was never able to be interviewed afterwards. But I think your emphasis on patriotism is really important because one of the students' main demands was
It's so interesting to just speculate and we just don't know because, you know, he was never able to be interviewed afterwards. But I think your emphasis on patriotism is really important because one of the students' main demands was
then I think it might have been the thing that would have gotten them to leave the square would have been to say, we want this to be acknowledged as a patriotic, that our goals are patriotic. We're not here to take China back into the Cultural Revolution. We're here to express our love for the country if it goes in the right way. So will you admit that?
then I think it might have been the thing that would have gotten them to leave the square would have been to say, we want this to be acknowledged as a patriotic, that our goals are patriotic. We're not here to take China back into the Cultural Revolution. We're here to express our love for the country if it goes in the right way. So will you admit that?
then I think it might have been the thing that would have gotten them to leave the square would have been to say, we want this to be acknowledged as a patriotic, that our goals are patriotic. We're not here to take China back into the Cultural Revolution. We're here to express our love for the country if it goes in the right way. So will you admit that?
And you mentioned about the power of the image. And I do think the Chinese Communist Party learned something, has taken to heart the power of the image after that, because we saw this in... But when there were protests in Hong Kong, the government on the mainland really wanted to tell a story there of, you know, crowds out of control.
And you mentioned about the power of the image. And I do think the Chinese Communist Party learned something, has taken to heart the power of the image after that, because we saw this in... But when there were protests in Hong Kong, the government on the mainland really wanted to tell a story there of, you know, crowds out of control.
And you mentioned about the power of the image. And I do think the Chinese Communist Party learned something, has taken to heart the power of the image after that, because we saw this in... But when there were protests in Hong Kong, the government on the mainland really wanted to tell a story there of, you know, crowds out of control.
And initially there were in 2014, and again, initially in 2019, there were very orderly crowds. And it... It had trouble with that story. So they tried very hard to ban images of peaceful protests until there were some incidents, as there almost always are, of violence by crowds. And then they would show those images over and over again.
And initially there were in 2014, and again, initially in 2019, there were very orderly crowds. And it... It had trouble with that story. So they tried very hard to ban images of peaceful protests until there were some incidents, as there almost always are, of violence by crowds. And then they would show those images over and over again.
And initially there were in 2014, and again, initially in 2019, there were very orderly crowds. And it... It had trouble with that story. So they tried very hard to ban images of peaceful protests until there were some incidents, as there almost always are, of violence by crowds. And then they would show those images over and over again.
They also worked very hard when Hong Kong protests began in the 2010s. to try very hard to avoid any use of soldiers to repress them. It was all the police. And they tried very hard and managed to success because the Western press was often saying, will this be another Tiananmen? Will there be a massacre? Will there be soldiers on the streets? The movements in Hong Kong were suppressed without
They also worked very hard when Hong Kong protests began in the 2010s. to try very hard to avoid any use of soldiers to repress them. It was all the police. And they tried very hard and managed to success because the Western press was often saying, will this be another Tiananmen? Will there be a massacre? Will there be soldiers on the streets? The movements in Hong Kong were suppressed without
They also worked very hard when Hong Kong protests began in the 2010s. to try very hard to avoid any use of soldiers to repress them. It was all the police. And they tried very hard and managed to success because the Western press was often saying, will this be another Tiananmen? Will there be a massacre? Will there be soldiers on the streets? The movements in Hong Kong were suppressed without
the use of shooting to kill on the streets. They were shooting to wound. There was beanbag shot. There were rubber bullets. There was enormous amounts of tear gas. There was even tear gas let fly inside subway stations in 2019. And all these things are really brutalizing, but they don't make the kind of images that sear in the mind the way something like
the use of shooting to kill on the streets. They were shooting to wound. There was beanbag shot. There were rubber bullets. There was enormous amounts of tear gas. There was even tear gas let fly inside subway stations in 2019. And all these things are really brutalizing, but they don't make the kind of images that sear in the mind the way something like